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View Poll Results: Would you vote to forfeit 800,000 American job opportunities?
Sure, why not? We are generous. 46 34.07%
No! Are you crazy? 76 56.30%
I don't care. 13 9.63%
Voters: 135. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-05-2017, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Putting this off 6 months puts this in march 2018, not long before mid- terms.
Trump hedged tonight saying he would "revisit" if Congress fails to act by March. So I guess he will just keep extending it.

 
Old 09-05-2017, 08:03 PM
 
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What's so horrible about going back to their country of origin? People are acting like they are being sent to jail or to death.
Returning to some countries does mean death. Hence the fight, tooth and nail, to stay.

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Old 09-05-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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It's terrible, what's happening to them. Truly awful.

So quick question, then: what are we to make of their PARENTS, for putting them in this position???
Kind of makes them pure scum, doesn't it?????
Even President Obama said he didn’t have the authority to do what he eventually did -- enact the Congressionally rejected DREAM Act through executive order.

President Trump is undoing an illegal action and reestablishing the rule of law is something everyone agree with. We are a nation of immigrants, legal immigrants, and we are also a nation of laws. Children were brought to this country illegally by their parents because we failed to enforce our immigration laws. Now would be a good time to start enforcing them.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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UH, these are not really immigrants in the sense you speak of...having been brought here as very young children. I doubt they are waving flags.....more likely they are part of the workforce (90 something percent).

Trump is devoid of ANY qualities befitting a Human Being. Period.
I do not support Trump and I doubt he does the right thing BUT this is also being poorly spun. DACA is Unconstitutional. It was done poorly (because Obama was too lazy to fight for anything). It needed done right.

Until we find out what is done we really can not comment on it.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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It's terrible, what's happening to them. Truly awful.

So quick question, then: what are we to make of their PARENTS, for putting them in this position???
Kind of makes them pure scum, doesn't it?????
American children and their parents have dreams too and those are being underserved. Is it right, for example, that in some states illegal aliens can get in-state tuition rates but that the child of an Afghan war veteran from a neighboring state cannot?

How about repealing and replacing ObamaCare and fulfilling the dreams of overburdened taxpayers who have insurance premium payments higher than their mortgage payments and deductibles so high their insurance cards are worthless?

How about passing tax cuts and repatriating American wealth parked overseas so entrepreneurs can fulfill their dreams of creating American jobs?
 
Old 09-05-2017, 08:07 PM
 
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Returning to some countries does me death. Hence the fight, tooth and nail, to stay.
No it doesn't you're being dramatic.

They do just fine:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXS60XKmgUA

There's some adjustment for them, but they eventually get used to it.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 08:07 PM
 
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Returning to some countries does me death. Hence the fight, tooth and nail, to stay.
Which countries are those and how many are here from these countries?
 
Old 09-05-2017, 08:08 PM
 
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We are a nation of immigrants, legal immigrants, and we are also a nation of laws. Children were brought to this country illegally by their parents because we failed to enforce our immigration laws. Now would be a good time to start enforcing them.

Pass some laws that put Americans first so that they can pursue their dreams. And, yes, welcome those who legally come here and dream of becoming American citizens who respect the rule of law, unlike President Obama.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Think session is wicked I hope they expose his sins one day. Something about him just ain't clean...
 
Old 09-05-2017, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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No.. he needs to speak up, just as he said he would... Trump's race hate and trying to use the Mexicans the same as Hitler used the Jews to rile people up and give some white people someone to look down upon, and blame their own failure upon.

when true fact is, Mexican's have nothing to do with American's Economic Failure... that was created 100% by the WASP, sporting their degree, wearing their suits, and chasing greed by any means at the expense of anything and everything.

Mexican's HAVE NOT Outsourced even 1 company to China from America, they did not bust up Unions and Destroy Employer paying benefits to employees.

If anything, Mexicans raised much of the well to do white societies children, and the men built many of the homes that American now live in.
When you go in the Grocery Store fawning over and picking over the vegetables, you should give thanks to the many Mexicans who get up before dawn and pick that fruit and vegetables... Among the thousands of other works they do, so American's can walk around with their arse up in the air, and their nose turned up... pretending to be some elite bigot.

Mexican people have survived far longer than the Johnny come lately to America, whom many only showed up here in the 1800's.

Some white people should face up to what they really resent... which is the fact that Mexicans have straight hair and a nice caramel color to their skin, and they don't have to bake in the sun trying to get a tan. They are industrious, and they are strongly family oriented and they never were a culture that had to submit to the white dominance delusions and fictions.

Historical white society could not conquer the Mexicans and turn them into slaves so they resented it, because right next door, the Mexican's had their own history and a heritage that gave them a firm foundation as to whom they are. They were not and could not be denied the knowing of their history, their ancestry was revered and they know whom their ancestry was and they knew what their culture was and is. The nature of "some" white people resent that!!! because they could not conquer and could not dominate the Mexicans. They even tried to use Catholicism, but the Mexicans did not buy into it to the ways that made the White Man their God, or their Image of God. They have their own figures they use in their worship ceremonies.

White system in America did everything it could to try and "hold down the Mexicans", even shipping industry 8 thousand miles across the Oceans, rather than helping Mexico build up industry right next door. Because it did not want to see the Mexicans have power and capability that rivaled that of the White Male American.

Now... what might benefit some is to go read up on Mexican and Central American History... it may well reveal much more than many have ever thought to consider..

Truths may demonstrate much more than some are willing to acknowledge and digest.

Ah, the ramblings of a madman...
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