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Old 09-19-2017, 02:27 PM
 
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According to what immigration attorney Denise Aguilar told the New Times, the hotels could receive $200 for every undocumented immigrant arrested through the operation.
That would be a bounty so I doubt it unless there was a price on some of their heads.
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It is an invasion of privacy. Private lists should not be turned over to the Government without a warrant.
Illegals should not be here without legal papers.
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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No they can't. Individuals have zero standings in enforcing or determining status.
Incorrect. Arizona recognizes the right of individuals to participate in citizens arrests. This includes calling in enforcement should they believe a law was broken.
ARIZONA REVISED STATUES
13-3884. Arrest by private person
A private person may make an arrest:
1. When the person to be arrested has in his presence committed a misdemeanor amounting to a breach of the peace, or a felony.
2. When a felony has been in fact committed and he has reasonable ground to believe that the person to be arrested has committed it.
13-3889. Method of arrest by private person
A private person when making an arrest shall inform the person to be arrested of the intention to arrest him and the cause of the arrest, unless he is then engaged in the commission of an offense, or is pursued immediately after its commission or after an escape, or flees or forcibly resists before the person making the arrest has opportunity so to inform him, or when the giving of such information will imperil the arrest.
13-3882. Time of making arrest
An arrest may be made on any day and at any time of the day or night.
13-3881. Arrest; how made; force and restraint
A. An arrest is made by an actual restraint of the person to be arrested, or by his submission to the custody of the person making the arrest.
B. No unnecessary or unreasonable force shall be used in making an arrest, and the person arrested shall not be subjected to any greater restraint than necessary for his detention.
13-3892. Right of private person to break into building
A private person, in order to make an arrest where a felony was committed in his presence, as authorized in section 13-3884, may break open a door or window of any building in which the person to be arrested is or is reasonably believed to be, if he is refused admittance after he has announced his purpose.
13-3900. Duty of private person after making arrest
A private person who has made an arrest shall without unnecessary delay take the person arrested before the nearest or most accessible magistrate in the county in which the arrest was made, or deliver him to a peace officer, who shall without unnecessary delay take him before such magistrate. The private person or officer so taking the person arrested before the magistrate shall make before the magistrate a complaint, which shall set forth the facts showing the offense for which the person was arrested. If, however, the officer cannot make the complaint, the private person who delivered the person arrested to the officer shall accompany the officer before the magistrate and shall make to the magistrate the complaint against the person arrested.
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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If someone witnesses a crime, they can call the authorities.

Writing Jose Mendez on a hotel ledger is not a crime.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:18 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No they can't. Individuals have zero standings in enforcing or determining status.
Neither US Statute is about enforcing or determining. Read them. 8 USC 1324 and 8 USC 1611.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:20 PM
 
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"See something; say something."
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:25 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I guess they are just doing their civic duty. If known outlaws are on the premises, any respectable company or individual would do the same.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:32 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Because that is not the society we are supposed to be. We are not a police state where the authorities go around collecting lists.
Bawww hawww hawww, No intent to insult but that's the funniest thing you've said yet. <bold>

I think willy-nilly and wholesale unmasking of surveilled U.S. citizens, the NSA doing wholesale recording and storage of all forms of communication used by U.S. citizens on U.S. soil and investigating people to FIND something they've done wrong (not investigating crimes and finding those involved) is real close if not exactly a police state.
LEO's maintain more lists than you know, all you've seen are the public ones like convicted drug dealer registries,convicted sex offender registries, lists of hackers,gang members and potential terrorists as well as radical groups etc,etc,etc.

I think if everyone asked for their FBI file and they were required to actually give you all of it y'all would be shocked.

I'm not being a conspiracy nut, those things I mention above openly exist. The question is, what don't they tell us about.
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Old 09-19-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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Neither US Statute is about enforcing or determining. Read them. 8 USC 1324 and 8 USC 1611.
Motel 6 is NOT bringing anyone in and there is NO way you can harbor someone unless you know for a fact that are here illegally and there is NO way for Motel 6 to determine that.

Just because someone has a Hispanic name does not make them an illegal. That's profiling and the courts are not going to support that. They've already tossed those actions in Arizona V U.S.
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Old 09-19-2017, 05:27 PM
 
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"See something; say something."
Millions see Hispanics every day.
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