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and what do you think would happen with singlepayer.....''''''rich''''' California will be paying for all of '''''super poor''''' Mississippi , who wont be paying anything into the singlepayer
IOW ...Mississippi would be California's black stepchild dependent
Republicans are now trying to bribe Alaska, who has been on Obamacare all along by letting them keep Obamacare plus receive the new benefits.
"This proposal would let Alaska keep its Obamacare money, reap the Graham-Cassidy money on top of that, boost its Medicaid match rate, and not have to abide by the trade-offs of either bill."
Republicans are now trying to bribe Alaska, who has been on Obamacare all along by letting them keep Obamacare plus receive the new benefits.
"This proposal would let Alaska keep its Obamacare money, reap the Graham-Cassidy money on top of that, boost its Medicaid match rate, and not have to abide by the trade-offs of either bill."
and the state with the HIGHEST percent of all minorities.....Alaska
do you have something against minorities????
is this how liberals view minorities now???
Minorities? Is that the rationale? Nothing to do with the fact that they are trying to buy Alaska's vote? Here is another proposal they are trying, where are all the minorities here? Because what I see are they are all RED STATES. They are trying to bribe red states into this bill by letting them keep Obamacare!!!!!
"The Medicaid delay would potentially apply to Alaska, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota and Montana.."
They really can't make assumptions because they have no clue what the states are going to do with the money. I trust my state government a hell of a lot more than the federal government.
They really can't make assumptions because they have no clue what the states are going to do with the money. I trust my state government a hell of a lot more than the federal government.
Why should some states get to keep Obamacare when others lose it? Why are Republicans trying to buy votes in states like Alaska by letting them keep Obamacare? Why should every state contribute while certain states get much larger slices of the pie?
it is the endless scare stories promoted by vested interests and fool that keeps us in this costly and low value system.
my mom takes a drug that costs about 47 euros a month, but cost almost 400 a month in the USA. Her EU doc is highly skilled and the hospital is state of the art. the pharmas and their middle men are just ripping us off.
it is no wonder they fight so hard. they can charge 2x 4x 10x what they charge in the EU....
those republicans who resist universal care are simply protecting big pharma, large insurance corps and corporate hospital chains...
the Trumpers and republicans are helping global corps stick it to working americans. It is hard to figure out Trumpers, they are actively supporting big wall street healthcare corps at the expense of their own neighbors and children...
Exactly. And how does this new bill address bringing the costs of health care down?
Oh yeah. It doesn't.
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That's because she is being subsidized by the high prescription costs in the USA and without the high costs here that drug may not even be available if the R&D that went into is not warranted by the low costs there.
You are welcome.
Not true. We do not subsidize the drugs for other countries.
We pay the the corporate shareholders massive profits and allow the pharmaceutical execs to be paid huge over-inflated salaries. And oh yeah--we pay for all those obnoxious ads that pharmaceutical companies run. That expensive advertising is crucial to our health.
What we don't do that Europe does is insist on price controls. Because that is socialism and Americans hate socialism. So no price controls for us. We smugly prefer to get screwed on prices, but no socialism for us.
Yeah, that's right, toss out a personal anecdote rather than refute anything the person you were replying to wrote....because you can't.
but we can. just list out your reasons why we should not have some version of universal healthcare and we will absolutely destroy your points, with ease.
You see many of the advocates for changing our healthcare insurance system have real life experience of other systems.
and frankly if we were to spend what we currently spend but on a public system , we would have the best in the world. but we dont need to , we could cut our healthcare bill by 30% and still leave everyone better off. Well not me my investments in Pharma would get crushed...
hmm maybe they part of the vested interests that are blocking any advancements...
The "fiscally responsible" GOP won't even let the bi-partisan Congressional Budget Office review and assess the effects of the bill.
This bill allows insurers to deny basic coverage that the ACA (Obamacare) protects:
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Pregnancy and maternity care
Prescription drugs
Mental health services
Reproductive health services, including birth control
Substance abuse treatment
The bill leaves 32 million human beings without coverage.
The bill redistributes wealth. During ACA, republican governors refused to accept federal funds for expanded Medicare coverage, hurting their own citizens in the process. Now they are happy to accept funding.
Mental health services aren't important until there's a mass shooting. Then folks want to know why the person didn't get help.
Reproductive services aren't important until the teen pregnancy rate, currently at An All Time Low, spikes again. Then it's time to complain about all the freeloaders on welfare and why they didn't use birth control.
This bill is shortsighted at best and criminal at worst.
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