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Old 09-29-2017, 11:05 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I just thought you might like to ask this "old doctor" what healthcare was like before Nixon allowed it to become a profit driven business.

As far as paperwork? That's been around since the first insurance company started selling policies and got much worse in 1965 with the advent of medicare. And honestly I don't know one single doctor who does administrative paperwork themselves, they hire people to do it. It's true there is more time spent studying lab results and reading patient charts but the only way to fix that is to not do lab work or read a patient's medical history, huh?
I don't know who "this old doctor" is or even if "this old doctor" really is one or is just one on this forum. Heck, I've got a PHD in Medical Operations (for the purposes of this forum).

Think whatever you wish, I do know the doctors and nurses I've spoken to and what they've said and have no reason to doubt them.

 
Old 09-29-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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I want that plan Trump talked about. You know, the one where we would all be covered and it would be cheaper.

Where's that plan?
If his mouth is moving, he's lying. Never fell for his BS. He has done nothing so far but pay golf 1/4 of the days he's been in office.

You know he also said he wouldn't take trips like Obama. He's been gone more than any president we've ever had.

Dang, he make Nixon look good.
 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I don't know who "this old doctor" is or even if "this old doctor" really is one or is just one on this forum. Heck, I've got a PHD in Medical Operations (for the purposes of this forum).

Think whatever you wish, I do know the doctors and nurses I've spoken to and what they've said and have no reason to doubt them.
You don't know who 'this old doctor is'?

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One older doctor who was one of my favorite docs of all time (and I've had many docs) very bluntly told me he was tired of insurance/government telling him how to treat his patients along with all the paperwork now required. He was spending way more time doing paperwork than he was spending actually treating his patients.
That was your post, right?
 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:25 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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One More Time-Repubicans Gear Up For a Last Attempt to Derail ObamaCare
What is a Repubican? Is that a rap group?
 
Old 09-29-2017, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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What is a Repubican? Is that a rap group?
LoL...yeah..gangsta to da core. Buncha OG's jacking yo Benjamins.
While dey chillin', you illin'...fo real!
 
Old 09-29-2017, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The other feature of single payer which I like is that it goes with you, regardless of which job one has or any life events. No gaps in coverage and it is with you in good times and bad.

Plus, every physician and hospital which takes insurance is in network.

Also, by encouraging early screening and checkups, potential problems can be caught early, before too much damage has occurred, potentially keeping people out of surgery and emergency rooms.

In addition, if they can be allowed to negotiate better prices on prescription medications for the nation as a pool (currently forbidden by congress), we all can see considerable benefit. Pharmaceuticals in the USA are far too costly compared to the rest of the world.

Another thought, we could potentially make agreements with other countries that when citizens travel (on vacation or business) our citizens can be cared for in the other countries by mutual arrangement. Depending upon the destination, no need to buy travel insurance. This could work for Europe, Britain, Australia, Israel etc.
yet its the government who is now saying "you don't need a mammogram until later"

I don't get how you guys think it will be so great, when the government is the one who have screwed up health care to begin with

there will NOT be negotiation of cost for Pharmaceuticals because the government (FDA) is the ones hiking the prices by giving and extending patents


let's look at a drug

Viagra-----
40 million men suffer from ED...40 million americans...that's more than the whole populations of the following countries:
Switzerland....8 mill
Canada.....36 mill..............hmm more americans suffer from ED, than there is the entire population of Canada
Denmark.... 5.5 mill
Norway.... 5.3 mill


When it comes to*buying 10 Viagra tablets of 100 milligrams each, costs are as follows at each of these chain pharmacies:in the USA....a tablet that is NEEDED to alleviate the issues of ED
CVS: $696.99 ($69.70 per tablet)
Walgreens: $720.99 ($72.10 per tablet)
Walmart: $691.11 ($69.11 per tablet)

the generic cost in the UK...sildenafil citrate (the active ingredient in Viagra) have fallen from £10 per pill (approximately US$15.30) to around £1 per pill (approximately US$1.53). even less in Canada

yet the FDA (our government) renewed the patent through 2020...meaning its ILLEGAL to sell a generic in the USA...ILLEGAL to import for any other country...even Canada


our government...will NOT have cheap health care.....NEVER..... everything our government puts its greedy hands on goes to crap


anyone arguing for singlepayer of UHC, is just fooling themselves

BTW...medicare/and medicaid deny Viagra...so you can kiss the thought of lower prices away
 
Old 09-29-2017, 07:11 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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You don't know who 'this old doctor is'?



That was your post, right?
I read it as you were speaking as "this old doctor". That is why I said what I did. If I was confused and it seems that I might have been then my apologies...
 
Old 09-30-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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The active ingredient in Viagra is sildenafil. There are two branded products with that ingredient; Viagra and Revatio. Revatio was approved for a different indication, pulmonary hypertension. The right dosing is Revatio 20mg, 1 tablet three times a day. That went generic last year. It is not expensive from a wholesale view point. Just have your physician write for it. Currently, at my pharmacy, we charge $54 per 90 tablets.

Generic drugs are reasonably priced in the US. The issue is with brand names and single source generics. Prescription drugs are a distant third in total health care dollars spent at 10%. Over half is spent on inpatient costs and physician fees.

We have had a few issues of counterfeit drugs getting into our legitimate drug supply. Some people were injured and some might have died. In response, FDA now requires all bottles to have a pedigree. You have to be able to trace the bottle's journey from manufacturer to pharmacy. Some countries have serious problems with counterfeits.
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