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Old 09-20-2017, 08:39 AM
 
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Too bad the movie wasn't made while he was alive and ailing so as to add to his own suffering. Kennedy should have been harrased to his grave.
Some of us understand empathy. It should be shown especially at the end stages of life.

Do you realize what you wish for others comes back to you? Yikes, good luck with that one!


No wonder I'm an independent.
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Some of us understand empathy. It should be shown especially at the end stages of life.

Do you realize what you wish for others comes back to you? Yikes, good luck with that one!


No wonder I'm an independent.
I have empathy for the people he harmed. Him, not so much
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Old 09-20-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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Some of us understand empathy. It should be shown especially at the end stages of life.

Do you realize what you wish for others comes back to you? Yikes, good luck with that one!


No wonder I'm an independent.
If I murder someone, I wont expect empathy
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Old 09-20-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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Comeon. The Kennedy's were all womanizers. Well known and the Ted affair was simply another example though a very sad one. Ted killed the lady by driving drunk or at least impaired. And there is no evidence he could have done anything that would have reversed the outcome. And sad.
Those brothers, well at least JFK and obviously Ted, didn't think being sober was a prerequisite for driving.

My grandfather was a young officer in the Navy during WW I. It didn't happen in battle, but the small vessel he was attached to sank. He was lucky to have survived. Because of that experience, after the war, he wanted to stay away from boats. He was also afraid to fly, so he drove and took trains everywhere. For pleasure, he and my grandmother drove all over the U.S., Mexico, and Canada. My grandfather was also an 'everything in moderation' kind of guy (except when it came to driving ). He would get one drink with a lot of tonic, and then nurse that drink all night. Before my parents met, my mother went on some of their trips with them. Their experiences inspired me to do the same....and I have, except I haven't done much driving in Mexico, and I haven't driven to Alaska. My grandfather is probably the only person I've ever known whose love of driving exceeds my own. He stopped driving when I was in my early 20s. We lived in the same town while I was growing up (thanks to his generosity), and almost every time I can recall being in a car with my grandfather, he was the one who was driving. My grandfather was a friend of both Joe Sr. and JFK. He went on some vacations (with my grandmother's 'blessing') with a small group of men (small enough for all of them to fit in one large sedan when they went out)...the same men each time, and one of the men was JFK. JFK was younger than the other men, and was the only one who wasn't married (my grandfather was less than a decade younger than Joe Sr.). Joe Sr. was not part of the group on these trips.

At one point when I was a kid (probably at some point during the Johnson Administration or the Nixon Administration), I asked my grandfather what had been the scariest moment of his life. I absolutely expected him to say that it was when his small vessel sank in WW I. He didn't. He said a number of times were probably equally scary, and that it was the same scenario each time. They were all car trips, all nights out while on vacation, all on the trips with the small group of men that I mentioned in the previous paragraph, and that JFK was always the one who was driving....that he wasn't sober while behind the wheel during any of these nights out...and that he was crazy when it came to driving.

My grandfather was also afraid of chairlifts, but my grandmother loved them. Occasionally, during their warm weather travels, they would visit an area where the chairlifts at a ski area would operate during non winter months. My grandmother would ride the chairlift, and my grandfather would wait for her at the bottom. Several of the times my grandmother did this, the resort had a set up where the chairlift riders could get their pictures taken on the chairlift in the off season setting. Someone in my family has these pictures of my grandmother.

It is my understanding that my grandfather only got on a boat/vessel/some sort of watercraft twice after WW I.....taking a ferry to Martha's Vineyard.....and then the ferry to Chappaquiddick...in the 1970s. He just HAD to see where Ted veered off the bridge and 'into the drink' .
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Old 09-20-2017, 09:49 AM
 
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Some of us understand empathy. It should be shown especially at the end stages of life.

Do you realize what you wish for others comes back to you? Yikes, good luck with that one!


No wonder I'm an independent.
What???? Who cares if someone is dying or not, the truth is still the truth and you don't get a pass on your crimes because you are about to die.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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I have empathy for the people he harmed. Him, not so much
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If I murder someone, I wont expect empathy
Go back and read what was originally wrote.

Its there in black and white wishing him more pain and suffering when he's dying.

You don't even have to tell me which party you stand behind. Its obvious.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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Go back and read what was originally wrote.
No need for me too.

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Its there in black and white wishing him more pain and suffering when he's dying.
I responded to the post I responded to. Deal with it.

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You don't even have to tell me which party you stand behind. Its obvious.
No it's not. Not that you care about the truth. Nothing to do with party, everything to do with the actions of the individual.
Look before you leap next time.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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Go back and read what was originally wrote.

Its there in black and white wishing him more pain and suffering when he's dying.

You don't even have to tell me which party you stand behind. Its obvious.
He deserved it and more.
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:48 PM
 
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This is all water under the Bridge. (sar)
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:02 PM
 
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For those of you who are unaware, there is a new film coming out about the Chappaquiddick incident:

‘Chappaquiddick’ Review: A Meticulous and Authentic Docudrama | Variety

Unlike the endless glamorization of the Kennedy family has that gone on for generations, this new film accurately portrays the dark side of Ted Kennedy. As the film reviewer said (in the above article), Kennedy should have gone on trial for involuntary manslaughter. (I also believe that he should have been expelled from the Senate.) It makes me extraordinarily angry how many liberals have idolized Ted Kennedy (and continue to idolize him).

Now, if I may digress for a moment, I know that I have gotten a lot of flack on this very message board for my harsh criticisms of Donald Trump. But I loathe Trump for the very same reason I loathe Ted Kennedy: both men are absolute scum. (And the same can be said about the Clintons as well.) And in fairness to Trump, nothing he has been accused of is as bad as what happened at Chappaquiddick. This may be hard for partisans on both sides to understand, but we all have a moral obligation to oppose unethical politicians.

Anyway, that's my two cents on this whole matter. I'm certainly not trying to make myself into some paragon of morality (as I am a flawed individual), but I do think that ethical behavior is the most important quality to look for in a public official.



So, what's the beef with Trump?
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