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This investigation has been going on for over a year now with different people/agencies and they still can't find anything.
Says you. How do you know, did Alex Jones tell you?
The investigators can not empanel grand juries without something to show them.
This investigation has two going simultaneously, and there could be another one empaneled besides before it is over (no way to know yet). These people are busy.
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Originally Posted by skycaller23
At what point do you throw in the towel and say "We didn't find anything ?"
At what point do you throw in the towel and say "we can't deny the criminality anymore".
I thought he was supposed to investigate the Russian connection to our elections.
Manafort has already been investigated and wiretapped twice with no charges because of no evidence.
Mueller got a FISA warrant to raid Manafort's home while he was sleeping. The warrant had to show probable cause to an independent judge. They picked his front door lock to keep him from flushing evidence down the toilet.
Mueller also got a FISA warrant against Facebook concerning Russian influence in the election.
These FISA warrants aren't handed out like tickets to a lawn and garden show.
The reason you don't see any charges on Manafort yet is because the investigation is like the old testament of the Bible.
"And Manafort begat Flynn, Kushner and Don Jr........who begat Flynn Jr., Russian lawyers, Deutsche Bank, who begat..............." on and on.
One piece of evidence opens up a trail of new leads to follow. Mueller won't pull the net in until it's full of fish.
Hopefully, he'll frog march them all in front of Trump Tower at 6:30AM in one huge roundup on national TV, just when Trump's sending his first Tweet of the day bragging about the size of his crowd in West Rust Belt, PA.
Mueller and Comey are too close, it is conflict of interest.
Mueller has no credibility for this reason.
Plus he looked even sillier when he hired Clinton's lawyers.
Absolutely no credibility, and that is why its very easy to doubt Mueller long before the investigation is over.
Mueller is a Republican? So are many Trump haters in Washington.
Comey used to work for Mueller. There are enough legal ethics experts that have weighed in and said this does not meet the legal criteria for conflict of interest. The only way there would be a conflict of interest would be if Comey had some sort of stake in the investigation, or if either one of them had some sort of financial benefit or otherwise that would accrue to them as a result of Mueller reaching a particular result.
It only meets your personal criteria, because you'd rather see a half-assed investigator in the tank for Trump who will quit in the first 100 yards of a 1 mile race.
Mueller is doing exactly as he has been charged. Manafort was the campaign manager for Trump. Manafort is up to his neck in Russian monies. Flynn and Flynn junior are up to their necks. Kushner has all sorts of involvement with Russians and lied just as Trump junior lied too.
We have a bunch of folks secretly meeting with meeting with members of Putin's government etc.
Just a couple of months ago we had every Trumper claiming "there is no russia" now that is has been proved Russia was involved. they say "but no collusion" now that we have proof of collusion trumpers say "collusion is not illegal".
now that we are about to see the first indictment, trumpers are saying "end the investigations, they are fishing, no fair, wah wah wah."
sorry Trumpers you will have to put up with this investigation for at least another year or two. and after that we shall start a whole new series of investigations into whatever new fraud we find trump and his staff involved in. On and on just like you guys did to the dems for the last decade. SO enjoy reaping what you sowed.
The question is, why didn't Trump's brainiac campaign know about any of this? Didn't do their homework?
Or just not care? Low standards? Or just not be smart enough to understand that foreign agents really should not manage one's campaign when running for president?
Haha--can you imagine if Hillary's campaign manager was being investigated for financial ties to shady foreign governments? They thought Podesta should be investigated over a pizzeria.
Mueller got a FISA warrant to raid Manafort's home while he was sleeping. The warrant had to show probable cause to an independent judge. They picked his front door lock to keep him from flushing evidence down the toilet.
Mueller also got a FISA warrant against Facebook concerning Russian influence in the election.
These FISA warrants aren't handed out like tickets to a lawn and garden show.
The reason you don't see any charges on Manafort yet is because the investigation is like the old testament of the Bible.
"And Manafort begat Flynn, Kushner and Don Jr........who begat Flynn Jr., Russian lawyers, Deutsche Bank, who begat..............." on and on.
One piece of evidence opens up a trail of new leads to follow. Mueller won't pull the net in until it's full of fish.
Hopefully, he'll frog march them all in front of Trump Tower at 6:30AM in one huge roundup on national TV, just when Trump's sending his first Tweet of the day bragging about the size of his crowd in West Rust Belt, PA.
Manafort was under investigation for months prior to the raid. The idea that despite months to cleanse any incriminating evidence, he would have kept it at his house, because he's so stupid it never occurred to him they might look there, is pure fantasy. It was a political stunt, designed to create the impression of guilt & create a feeding frenzy for the mouth breathing lefties like you, who're operating on base emotion, rather than common sense.
The question is, why didn't Trump's brainiac campaign know about any of this? Didn't do their homework?
Or just not care? Low standards? Or just not be smart enough to understand that foreign agents really should not manage one's campaign when running for president?
Haha--can you imagine if Hillary's campaign manager was being investigated for financial ties to shady foreign governments?They thought Podesta should be investigated over a pizzeria.
John Podesta, a foreign agent, who lied about his financial ties to the Russians, was in fact the campaign manager for Hillary Clinton.
Mueller got a FISA warrant to raid Manafort's home while he was sleeping. The warrant had to show probable cause to an independent judge. They picked his front door lock to keep him from flushing evidence down the toilet.
Mueller also got a FISA warrant against Facebook concerning Russian influence in the election. These FISA warrants aren't handed out like tickets to a lawn and garden show.
The reason you don't see any charges on Manafort yet is because the investigation is like the old testament of the Bible.
"And Manafort begat Flynn, Kushner and Don Jr........who begat Flynn Jr., Russian lawyers, Deutsche Bank, who begat..............." on and on.
One piece of evidence opens up a trail of new leads to follow. Mueller won't pull the net in until it's full of fish.
Hopefully, he'll frog march them all in front of Trump Tower at 6:30AM in one huge roundup on national TV, just when Trump's sending his first Tweet of the day bragging about the size of his crowd in West Rust Belt, PA.
I know that. This would be the 3rd FISA warrant on Manafort then.
The first one got closed..no evidence and no charges.
The second one got closed in Jan of this year. No indictation on the results of that.
But if they had to get a FISA warrant to raid his home then that means the one ended in January didn't produce anything because then they could have gotten a regular warrant.
Maybe they need to go further back. Maybe Manafort did something in HS that they can charge him with.
Then they can use that to impeach Trump
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