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Old 09-26-2017, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The left has been playing the identity politics game for decades, dividing this country and sowing discontent between the races and between every other "identity" group. The latest phrase to capture their imaginations is the bogus term "White Privilege". Implying that somehow one race is naturally...what, superior or more capable simply due to their race, and that we need to both apologize for it and somehow "level" races to some lowest common denominator? Sorry-but "white privilege" is just one more racist term the left likes to throw around. Nothing to back it up-but it somehow is supposed to justify individuals failures and engender guilt among whites? Why, exactly, do leftists assume that people will assume unearned guilt over things they are powerless to do anything about? We are born within a race. Big flippin' deal, it's a fraction of a percent of DNA difference. Individuals, of every race, choose what they become and how far they will succeed.

The left has proven themselves incapable of intelligent debate-and once again play the race card. When you lack a real argument and facts-just call names, right? Right up there with the equally ignorant and racist statement that "only white people can be racists".

 
Old 09-26-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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What if a black president had taken 28,000 casualties looking for wmds and came up empty?
What if a black president had said that he only respects soldiers who weren`t captured?
What if a black president was living in the Whitehouse on 9-11?
 
Old 09-26-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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What if a black president had taken 28,000 casualties looking for wmds and came up empty?
What if a black president had said that he only respects soldiers who weren`t captured?
What if a black president was living in the Whitehouse on 9-11?
And? If memory serves me, we had a black president. And he proved himself at least as inept as any other. Let me guess-it's wrong to point that out? Black privilege, right?
 
Old 09-26-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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The left has been playing the identity politics game for decades, dividing this country and sowing discontent between the races and between every other "identity" group. The latest phrase to capture their imaginations is the bogus term "White Privilege". Implying that somehow one race is naturally...what, superior or more capable simply due to their race, and that we need to both apologize for it and somehow "level" races to some lowest common denominator? Sorry-but "white privilege" is just one more racist term the left likes to throw around. Nothing to back it up-but it somehow is supposed to justify individuals failures and engender guilt among whites? Why, exactly, do leftists assume that people will assume unearned guilt over things they are powerless to do anything about? We are born within a race. Big flippin' deal, it's a fraction of a percent of DNA difference. Individuals, of every race, choose what they become and how far they will succeed.

The left has proven themselves incapable of intelligent debate-and once again play the race card. When you lack a real argument and facts-just call names, right? Right up there with the equally ignorant and racist statement that "only white people can be racists".
It depends on how the term is used. If it is used as a way to end a conversation, I think it is a terrible and divisive thing.


Quite to the contrary, I think there is a great deal we can discuss as a nation in regards to implicit biases that are built into our society (often without us realizing they are there). These extend well beyond race and gender, as well, and include things like class, wealth, education levels, and even the way you speak (or the accent you hold).

I think there are meaningful and legitimate discussion points here. And the key word there is "discussion" - this should be a conversation. Not a lecture or a shouting match.



At the DNA level, I can tell you, as someone who works with genetic data on a daily basis, the entire premise of "race" is a bit absurd. Our species is way more mixed and homogeneous than most people realize. In fact, one of the great "equalizers", I believe, is getting your own genome sequenced and seeing what kind of ancestral history you have. It can be really illuminating, and might change the way you look at the world and at other people around you.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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It exists. I've experienced it.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 11:36 AM
 
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Democrats feel they can win with only minority votes. This white privilege stuff is a way they feel can energize those votes
 
Old 09-26-2017, 11:38 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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There is only one real form of privilege in this country and that is economic. If you have the financial means you can do and get away with whatever you want, regardless of skin color or gender. What better way to keep the status quo then to pit poor whites, latinos and blacks against one another.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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There is only one real form of privilege in this country and that is economic. If you have the financial means you can do and get away with whatever you want, regardless of skin color or gender. What better way to keep the status quo then to pit poor whites, latinos and blacks against one another.
There are many forms of biases and stereotypes that manifest themselves as "privilege". You're correct that economic status/class is a major one, perhaps the most significant one in our society. But it's certainly not the only one.

Put another way, a very wealthy black man has "privilege" because of his economic wealth. But he is not completely shielded from certain negative stereotypes that he'll contend with through his life.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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There is only one real form of privilege in this country and that is economic. If you have the financial means you can do and get away with whatever you want, regardless of skin color or gender. What better way to keep the status quo then to pit poor whites, latinos and blacks against one another.
I would agree that economic status is the #1 factor, I would say that it completely dwarfs all other factors, but I don't think I could agree that that means there are NO other factors in play. They just pale in comparison to economic status.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
The left has been playing the identity politics game for decades, dividing this country and sowing discontent between the races and between every other "identity" group. The latest phrase to capture their imaginations is the bogus term "White Privilege". Implying that somehow one race is naturally...what, superior or more capable simply due to their race, and that we need to both apologize for it and somehow "level" races to some lowest common denominator? Sorry-but "white privilege" is just one more racist term the left likes to throw around. Nothing to back it up-but it somehow is supposed to justify individuals failures and engender guilt among whites? Why, exactly, do leftists assume that people will assume unearned guilt over things they are powerless to do anything about? We are born within a race. Big flippin' deal, it's a fraction of a percent of DNA difference. Individuals, of every race, choose what they become and how far they will succeed.

The left has proven themselves incapable of intelligent debate-and once again play the race card. When you lack a real argument and facts-just call names, right? Right up there with the equally ignorant and racist statement that "only white people can be racists".
That's not "white privilege." Should've researched it a bit better before starting the hundredth thread on it.
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