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Why do Americans love guns so much? I don't get the obsession. It's like the 1 thing they are most adamant about protecting, above all else. They could lose healthcare, their savings, their house, their job, etc. but as long as they have their guns they don't care.
It's especially ironic consider how many Gun lovers claim to be Christian. Jesus would never support the possession or use of guns, so those people are not good Christians.
This gun law would have prevented the shooter from killing and injuring so many in a few minutes of time: Outlaw the sale, possession or re-sale of gas-operated weapons.
I can say one thing for certain. If every person in that huge crowd each had a gun on them, it would not have saved one life. Yes, a gun CAN save your life under certain circumstances, but not in one like we just saw in Vegas.
What didn't happen in Vegas? People with guns didn't pull them out and start blasting away. The vast majority of people with guns act in a responsible manner.
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Originally Posted by ellemint
Most Americans are too lazy to put their chips down long enough to get off the sofa for a minute. Very few are going to construct their own guns.
Do crack addicts go out and harvest the leaves, convert them to cocaine and then cook them into crack since crack is illegal?
Since you probably don't know, the answer is no. Other people provide the illegal substance to those willing to pay. The same would happen with guns.
Can you give me a single example of government prohibition working when there is demand?
Why do Americans love guns so much? I don't get the obsession. It's like the 1 thing they are most adamant about protecting, above all else. They could lose healthcare, their savings, their house, their job, etc. but as long as they have their guns they don't care.
It's especially ironic consider how many Gun lovers claim to be Christian. Jesus would never support the possession or use of guns, so those people are not good Christians.
Why do Americans love guns so much? I don't get the obsession. It's like the 1 thing they are most adamant about protecting, above all else. They could lose healthcare, their savings, their house, their job, etc. but as long as they have their guns they don't care.
It's especially ironic consider how many Gun lovers claim to be Christian. Jesus would never support the possession or use of guns, so those people are not good Christians.
Jesus said "he that hath no sword ket him sell his cloak and buy one."
This gun law would have prevented the shooter from killing and injuring so many in a few minutes of time: Outlaw the sale, possession or re-sale of gas-operated weapons.
The LV shooter deliberately shot at and killed 58 people. Guess what? There are laws against that. Did those laws do anything whatsoever to prevent that from happening? NO.
Why not? CRIMINALS DON'T OBEY LAWS.
Wow, that's so profound. Ok, so criminals don't obey laws. Do you think it is any different in any other country? Do they behave better in France, UK, Germany, etc, etc, where the homicide rates are much much lower than here?
Next - they can always get guns. Hmm, that's interesting, so why is that, if every legal owner is very responsible and there are no loopholes?
How do they get those guns (hint: 3D printing and Syria are wrong answers)? Do tell.
We typically think of mass shootings as a uniquely American problem, but I just became aware of the following. Of the most deadly shootings since 2010, Las Vegas ranks fifth - behind these others:
Garissa University, Kenya 2015, 148 dead. Kenya prohibits citizens from owning fully automatic rifles, and semi-auto assault weapons. Possession of other rifles, shotguns is allowed, but regulated, and handguns and revolvers are allowed by permit.
Peshawar, Pakistan 2014, 148 dead. Pakistani laws are similar to Kenya's, but fully automatic is granted in very limited instances.
Paris, France 2015, 130 dead. Civilians are not allowed to possess weapons of war, certain handguns and long guns, automatic firearms, firearms disguised as other objects, and armour-piercing, incendiary and expanding ammunition. Private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is prohibited with only narrow exemptions. Semi-auto rifles are permitted under license.
Utoya/Oslo, Norway 2011, 69/8 dead. In Norway, all guns are permitted under license, and their licensing is considered quite restrictive. Eight people were killed by a bomb prior to the shooting.
In these countries, where gun ownership is equal to, or more restrictive, than in the US, they have seen tragic shootings recently as well. We might be able to come up with solutions as they pertain to gun control, but since it's pretty safe to say that guns and gun laws in the US aren't going to change substantially in the near future, perhaps a better place to start would be to look into what prompted the shootings and what they had in common that lead to such a high loss of life. Thoughts?
Why do you think that those people wouldn't have been killed by other means?
Um, maybe because a guy on the 32nd floor of a hotel with a baseball bat couldn't have done what happened in Las Vegas, Orlando, or Sandy Hook or the MANY other mass shootings. Not to mention all the other killings.
But still our Constitution does not apply to him/her unless they are within our shores. Non citizens may have the right to speak their minds but they have no right to try and influence our laws and political system. If we continue to allow for that we will no longer have a country or national identity. E Pluribus Unum, "out of many one". Our motto instead will become: Ex Uno Plures "out of one many". We can not have a multi cultural society as it brings with it centuries old conflicts into our homeland. That's the whole point of having a process to legally immigrate into this country. Although it is failing miserably and we are now suffering the consequences.
We are the United States of America an independent country and not a state of the world. It's our country and belongs to it's citizens. Do we really want to have foreign countries along with their citizens influencing our elections? I for one certainly do not.
LOL this wouldn't be so funny if the good 'ol USA didn't try and influence so much of the world.
That aside, I do agree that COUNTRIES shouldn't interfere in another countries politics...like Russia apparently has with yours...BUT this is just a frickin' internet forum. What part of that don't you get? Do you honesty think that any " foreigners " posts here influence your laws???
I find that train of thought just plain weird.
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