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Old 10-13-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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Old 10-13-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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Uh huh, and a white, 64 year old, wealthy AMERICAN man slaughtered 58 people and injured almost 500 more. So, what is your logic ?

Answer: You HAVE no logic.
No, you have no logic. That is truly pitiful. The fact that there are murderers in this country means we should import more? God, man, think before you touch the keyboard.

American citizens belong in this country. We have to put up with them. We can't get rid of them except by punishing them after they've committed a crime. Illegals, however, should be committing their crimes in their own countries. And we can and should get rid of them.
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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And your logic is a fail too. So because someone killed 58 people, this one murder somehow is acceptable?

NO murder is acceptable. But you are jumping up and down, as if this one bad apple DACA guy represents ALL of them and the sky is falling because they are here.

My point is that idiots come from ALL backgrounds, not just Mexican immigrants. Should we ban all white 64 year old rich guys because this one did that deed ? No. And should be ban ALL DACA kids because of what that one criminal did ? Again, NO.

If there is a FAIL, it is the attempt to discredit an entire group of people because of one bad actor. You can't mask and cover up what the intention was, we see it from the OP all the time.
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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No, you have no logic. That is truly pitiful. The fact that there are murderers in this country means we should import more? God, man, think before you touch the keyboard.

American citizens belong in this country. We have to put up with them. We can't get rid of them except by punishing them after they've committed a crime. Illegals, however, should be committing their crimes in their own countries. And we can and should get rid of them.

Got news for you, Bud, the majority of "murderers" in this country are home grown. AMERICANS. You have this irrational fear of anyone born somewhere else. Unless YOU are of Indian decent, YOU are an immigrant too, or at least your forefathers were. Bet you wouldn't have liked someone shutting the door to them coming in, would you ?

Another shocker for you. A lot of these people coming in ENHANCE our country and provide us with many professionals and others, who work hard and simply want the same chances in life you and I have.
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:21 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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NO murder is acceptable. But you are jumping up and down, as if this one bad apple DACA guy represents ALL of them and the sky is falling because they are here.

My point is that idiots come from ALL backgrounds, not just Mexican immigrants. Should we ban all white 64 year old rich guys because this one did that deed ? No. And should be ban ALL DACA kids because of what that one criminal did ? Again, NO.

If there is a FAIL, it is the attempt to discredit an entire group of people because of one bad actor. You can't mask and cover up what the intention was, we see it from the OP all the time.
You are hopeless.

No one is jumping up and down. The point of this thread is to show the other side of the images of gifted, hardworking DACA individuals that the liberal media and the Left have tried to push. And just because the Vegas shooting was horrific does not mean we can't talk about this or anything else.

Of course, you being dense, you won't get it and so I'll probably have to explain it to you a third, possibly a fourth and fifth time.
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:31 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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You are hopeless.

No one is jumping up and down. The point of this thread is to show the other side of the images of gifted, hardworking DACA individuals that the liberal media and the Left have tried to push. And just because the Vegas shooting was horrific does not mean we can't talk about this or anything else.

Of course, you being dense, you won't get it and so I'll probably have to explain it to you a third, possibly a fourth and fifth time.
Bingo.... the liberal media spotlight the DACA individuals but obviously pick and choose. Fair reporting would include profiling scumbags like this one.
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Old 10-13-2017, 04:17 PM
 
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Got news for you, Bud, the majority of "murderers" in this country are home grown. AMERICANS. You have this irrational fear of anyone born somewhere else. Unless YOU are of Indian decent, YOU are an immigrant too, or at least your forefathers were. Bet you wouldn't have liked someone shutting the door to them coming in, would you ?

Another shocker for you. A lot of these people coming in ENHANCE our country and provide us with many professionals and others, who work hard and simply want the same chances in life you and I have.
No, you don't have news for me, and it's absolutely astounding that you would think you do! Literally everyone who comments on this website knows that there are more native murderers than imported ones.

Literally everyone.

Yet you think we are so stupid that we don't know such a trivially true fact. May God have mercy on your soul!

I have no irrational fear of anyone; you have an utter inability to understand why other people do and think what they do. It's amazing that you would offer up "irrational fear" as a motivation for someone whose political positions are all case studies in logic and rationality. You live in a world of strawmen. It's unreal.

Whether "many" of these people enhance our country is completely irrelevant. What is relevant is whether they, in the aggregate, add to the value of citizens' ownership shares in our country. They don't.

They literally have to be twice as productive as the average American citizen to justify their presence, and the average "Dreamer" is not even as productive as the American citizen.

There are absolutely no arguments for their presence here other than an argument by people of their ethnicity to the effect that the ethnic genetic interests of that ethnicity would benefit by having more such people using the resources of this country.

As for "wanting the same chances in life you or I have", who cares? And how trite! Obviously, all of us understand their motivations! I'm astonished that you could think such things aren't obvious to people other than yourself.

We understand their motivations, but they are achieving their goals by stealing from us. They are the beneficiaries of crime, and we the victims owe them absolute no duties. "Fear" never enters into it, and anyone who claims it does is lying or completely out of touch with reality.
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Old 10-13-2017, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Wow, people are bending over backwards to miss Don's point.


Don wasn't saying that because of the Las Vegas killings, this murder shouldn't be talked about. The OP was trying to paint all DACA immigrants with the same brush because of what ONE person did, so Don replied asking would it then make sense for people to think all old White guys were psycho killers because of what that terrorist did?

It was a really simple point guys, but I digress.
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Old 10-13-2017, 04:57 PM
 
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Uh huh, and a white, 64 year old, wealthy AMERICAN man slaughtered 58 people and injured almost 500 more. So, what is your logic ?

Answer: You HAVE no logic.
We have enough of our own criminals without importing more.

Logical.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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My point is that idiots come from ALL backgrounds, not just Mexican immigrants. Should we ban all white 64 year old rich guys because this one did that deed ? No. And should be ban ALL DACA kids because of what that one criminal did ? Again, NO.
^^^^^ This is essentially a deflection from War Beagle's point in post #10.
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