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Old 10-26-2017, 07:16 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Are these the same scientists that said 70% of us should be under water by now due to global warming?
No, climate/weather scientists are climatologists &/or study the weather, fluidics, chaos theory, etc.

The scientists looking @ the big bang are cosmologists & various high-energy physicists, plus all the instrumentation people, computer programmers, comms, etc. There might be some overlap, but I don't think the two areas have all that much in common.

The climatologists also rely on a lot of instrumentation & computer data crunching & simulations, historical weather/climate data, analysis of tree growth rings & lots of data sets from observations in the World.
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Old 10-26-2017, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Japan
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With apparent fine-tuning, the simulation hypothesis, etc., I have the impression that evidence for a creator of our particular universe is increasing. Thoughts?
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Old 10-26-2017, 08:36 PM
 
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Are these the same scientists that said 70% of us should be under water by now due to global warming?

You are right. We should not listen to any scientists. Einstein was an idiot. We are currently communicating on a device solely supported by fairy dust. No matter what some douche bag scientists says.
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Old 10-27-2017, 06:11 AM
 
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You would think they might consider that God created the universe.
The universe shouldn’t exist, according to science | New York Post
A thousand years from now......if humanity and earth is still around......humans will look back at this era for all the things it did not know that they will know just like we look back a thousand years at what humans did not know that we now know.

I don't think we will ever reach the end of knowledge.....where we know and can explain everything. I think once we reach the end of knowledge....then we become gods or we cease to exist. Explanation of the universe may only come after death.
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Old 10-27-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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I just gotta say that you atheist, anti christian types are sort of funny to me. You fight like heck to come up with every scientific sounding arguments that don't even agree with each other and you rant and rave, call people names. Obviously feeling superior to anyone who would claim to be a "christian".

Someone commented about a " Christian" being scared of scary things. That is laughable, if you are a Christian, you believe in the existence of God and Satan, good and evil, and if you think about you will realize that Satan, the devil is the one that offers the easy path, all sugar coated, whatever you like. Go ahead do whatever you desire, if it feels good do it. That is Satan calling, he is just full of excuses and goodies.
i need some of that chronic you've been puffing on
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Nobody thinks the Big Bang is well understood or that it even went bang. The term is just a metaphor for the weird thing that our best current evidence indicates must have happened about 13.8 billion years ago.
Hang on. If I understand this correctly, the reason we "know" that the universe is that old is because of starlight, right? However the observable universe is 45.7 billion light years accross. Meaning that assuming the speed of light cannot change, and cutting the distance by half to get radius, that means the farthest star is over 22 billion light years away. How can we see a star 22 billion light years away if the universe is only 13 billion years old?
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Hang on. If I understand this correctly, the reason we "know" that the universe is that old is because of starlight, right? However the observable universe is 45.7 billion light years accross. Meaning that assuming the speed of light cannot change, and cutting the distance by half to get radius, that means the farthest star is over 22 billion light years away. How can we see a star 22 billion light years away if the universe is only 13 billion years old?
22 billion light years is travel time or distance for light to travel, not actual time.


They recently detected cosmic waves from two stars that collided 130 Million years ago when dinosaurs roamed the earth. Amazing and gives you a small perspective on the size of the universe.


Collision Of 2 Neutron Stars
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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Hang on. If I understand this correctly, the reason we "know" that the universe is that old is because of starlight, right? However the observable universe is 45.7 billion light years accross. Meaning that assuming the speed of light cannot change, and cutting the distance by half to get radius, that means the farthest star is over 22 billion light years away. How can we see a star 22 billion light years away if the universe is only 13 billion years old?
here are three different sites that might help you understand the issue;

How large is the observable universe? - The Nature of Reality — The Nature of Reality | PBS

The observable universe is now 90.68 billion light-years wide - Business Insider

https://www.space.com/24073-how-big-...-universe.html

remember that the universe is expanding in all directions, not just one.

second we are not at the edge of the universe, but rather out in the suburbs as it were, there are galaxies beyond where we are.

third you have to take into account more than just the speed of light when trying to figure the actual diameter of the universe.
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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You would think they might consider that God created the universe.
The universe shouldn’t exist, according to science | New York Post

Good scientists will admit when there are gaps in their knowledge and not deflect by claiming that something shouldn't exist, when it clearly does.
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It is so awe inspiring to look up at the stars in the night sky and think on how it is possible we exist, how the universe exists, how the laws of physics exist, etc...

Atoms exist and form cells and cells come together to form conscious beings that can ponder the very existence of the universe.

In the end, we all believe that something came from nothing....counterintuitive to everything we experience in life.
It is amazing and gives a good perspective of how small and also how lucky we are to exist. Surviving in an orbit after the big bang, not to close to the sun and not to far away, water, carbon and atmosphere and the origin of life.
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