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No one is advocating to take this type of weapon away from the military or law enforcement. I'm curious (and not being snarky), about the number of times these weapons are used by citizens to protect their own lives. My feeling was that most people like to use them on the gun range. Is an AR-15 or equivalent weapon the firearm of choice for home protection? I thought most people had handguns for that.
My statement encompasses all firearms, I don't differentiate between the types, looks or color of them. They can all kill in defense or they can kill in offense.
While my home defense choice is either a pump action shotgun or a semi auto hand gun (revolver for my wife) rifles can and are used in home defense.
Remember the "roof top Koreans" from the LA riots ? I believe they used AR's and AK-47's to protect their businesses.
Do you know anyone from the southern part of the United States? The AR-15 is one of the easiest guns to manufacture so you will see outlaw gun manufacturing becoming just as popular down here as meth.
Ok and they will be arrested and do prison time just like meth cookers. Just because some people will willing break a law doesn't mean its a bad idea. Child porn is illegal some people still partake in it, doesn't mean that it being illegal is a bad idea.
My wife , daughter and I had a similar situation years ago. A boy she had started dating was exactly like the Cruz guy. The similarities are frightening. We talked to the school, we talked to the parents, we talked to the police (who actually had him on their radar) and basically we were treated like we were the ones that had the problem. No one wants to listen. The kid was smart enough to tell anyone of authority that questioned him exactly what they wanted to hear. This was years ago and he is probably in his 20's now. I know he has purchased some firearms and honestly think it is only a matter of time before we see him in the news.
but that is just the problem....
this kid made threats against the school and his peers...... that should be a major red flag.... yet if we say something, we are looked upon as the nutjobs that have something against the "poor innocent youth"
everyone of these shootings in the last few years has been one thing in common... A mentally unstable person acting on his 'instability' ... the nutjob from Sandyhook, should have been institutionalized...the nutjob from Vegas, should have been reported by the navy(?) or was it airforce, and institutionalized.. the nutjob from the church in SC, same thing
everyone of these SHOULD have been caught beforehand... yet we need to treat people nice, and turn the otherway....NO..ENOUGH is ENOUGH... open the institutions back up that we closed in the 80's
Ok and they will be arrested and do prison time just like meth cookers. Just because some people will willing break a law doesn't mean its a bad idea. Child porn is illegal some people still partake in it, doesn't mean that it being illegal is a bad idea.
I have no problem volunteering to execute anyone involved in child porn. I wouldn't mind the money by "breaking bad" but it isn't worth the risk. But I will fight for my 2nd Amendment rights to the very end and I will have my wife right beside me.
It would be nice if you didn't feel the need to insult posters you don't agree with.
I understand the differences between flying on a plane and owning a weapon, but we were discussing efforts to make it more difficult for mass murderers to get weapons.
And I don't think that banning even a certain type of gun is the equivalent of banning clippers altogether from the public. We ban other types of weapons, such as bombs, grenades, rocket launchers. Some jurisdictions ban the carrying of clubs such as nightsticks. Why would adding a particular type of gun be different?
It's not that I enjoy insulting other posters.... and it has nothing to do with whether I agree with you or not.
I just get sick of people pulling "facts" out of their backsides and using the same tired red herring and straw man arguments over and over again.
If people are going to advocate stripping a Constitutional right from law abiding citizens who have done nothing wrong, the very least they can do is educate themselves on the facts that they are attempting to use to justify that position.
A great example is when people try to use the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" argument as an analogy to placing limits on firearms.
First if all, there is no law against yelling fire in a crowded theater.
And even if there was, it would not ban using the word "fire" anytime, anyplace.
You'd still he able to yell "fire" at the top of your lungs on your own property.
Banning a certain type of gun from ownership by the public would be analogous to banning the word "fire" from being spoken at all....even in your own home.....not just in a theater.
It's not that I enjoy insulting other posters.... and it has nothing to do with whether I agree with you or not.
I just get sick of people using the same tired red herring and straw man arguments over and over again.
If people are going to advocate stripping a Constitutional right from law abiding citizens who have done nothing wrong, the very least they can do is educate themselves on the facts that they are attempting to use to justify that position.
A great example is when people try to use the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" argument as an analogy to placing limits on firearms.
First if all, there is no law against yelling fire in a crowded theater.
And even if there was, it would not ban using the word "fire" anytime, anyplace.
You'd still he able to yell "fire" at gge too of your lungs on your own property.
Banning a certain type of gun from ownership by the public would be analogous to banning the word "fire" from being spoken at all....even in your own home.....not just in a theater.
Owning a gun is not a Constitutional right. Are you part of a militia? Otherwise, the 2nd amendment doesn't apply to you.
In a nation of 70 million people (the UK) the number of people shot and killed rests around 50 to 60 a year. In contrast the state of New Mexico averages 60 to 70 gun homicides a year and only has a population of 2 million people. And New Mexico is a generally safe in contrast to most other states. If there was a true demand for guns then there would be extremely powerful crime syndicates all over Europe making a fortune from smuggling and selling guns yet that doesn't appear to be the case.
It's not that I enjoy insulting other posters.... and it has nothing to do with whether I agree with you or not.
I just get sick of people using the same tired red herring and straw man arguments over and over again.
If people are going to advocate stripping a Constitutional right from law abiding citizens who have done nothing wrong, the very least they can do is educate themselves on the facts that they are attempting to use to justify that position.
A great example is when people try to use the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" argument as an analogy to placing limits on firearms.
First if all, there is no law against yelling fire in a crowded theater.
And even if there was, it would not ban using the word "fire" anytime, anyplace.
You'd still he able to yell "fire" at gge too of your lungs on your own property.
Banning a certain type of gun from ownership by the public would be analogous to banning the word "fire" from being spoken at all....even in your own home.....not just in a theater.
Yes I hate the "fire" example that is drug out so many times in this arugement. Yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater with intent to create a stampede is at the very least Disorderly Conduct (in my state) and a crime... it's not the word but the intent to create a dangerous situation that's a crime.
Likewise It's not illegal to own a gun but it it's illegal to wave a gun around in a crowd and threaten to shoot people.
Ok and they will be arrested and do prison time just like meth cookers. Just because some people will willing break a law doesn't mean its a bad idea. Child porn is illegal some people still partake in it, doesn't mean that it being illegal is a bad idea.
Some people? How about up to 10 million.
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