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I don't think he will be taken down by his sexual misdeeds, I think it will be something else. He got elected and everyone knew he was a sleaze.
Yahoo news!!! LOL!
Talk is one thing. Actions are another. Women who know Donald Trump, and have known him for many years, including those who have worked for him, have said he is a perfect gentleman around women.
Talk is one thing. Actions are another. Women who know Donald Trump, and have known him for many years, including those who have worked for him, have said he is a perfect gentleman around women.
Care to back that up with an UNbaised source? I didn't think so.
Talk is one thing. Actions are another. Women who know Donald Trump, and have known him for many years, including those who have worked for him, have said he is a perfect gentleman around women.
Did you read the link? It has Trumps tweets.
Do you have a link to back up the bolded? I am sure you can find some on Howard Stern videos.
I've been saying this pretty much since the Harvey Weinstein story broke and I've mostly been ignored, but I think it's been the goal since the very beginning. The Russian collusion story is taking too long to wield any real results so it is time to go to plan B. First comes Harvey, then comes a laundry list of Hollywood stars, then some state level congressmen, then some national level congressmen and then, at long last, Trump himself. Careers destroyed and precedents set but it's all just collateral damage.
You are already seeing people bringing up Trump stories that they haven't brought up since the election. "In the context of the recent allegations..." posts and articles are starting to pop up and you are going to start seeing more of it. All of it, every allegation, every career that's been halted in its tracks, every apology made and every reputation destroyed have all just been props used to set the stage for the final act, taking down Donald Trump.
I may be ignored or mocked or have my judgement questioned for saying this but in a few months time many people will be singing the same tune and it will seem obvious in retrospect.
I'm not usually a believer in conspiracy theories, but there's definitely merit in what you're saying. This whole recent trend with the accusations absolutely stinks to high heaven to me.
I've been saying this pretty much since the Harvey Weinstein story broke and I've mostly been ignored, but I think it's been the goal since the very beginning. The Russian collusion story is taking too long to wield any real results so it is time to go to plan B..
Isn't this hocus pocus bass ackwords?
Should any man (including the ascendant almighty Trump) be allowed to assault at least sixteen reported women with zero actual accountability?
Pernicious wounds left to fester do just that. Lack of redress and accountability wounds victims most. But it also damages all DECENT people in our culture/society. We're starting to see that as some women gain a voice which has become an aggregate in some places.
Should money, power and/or political protection allow Trump (or anyone) to shirk RESPONSIBILITY for his SPECIFIC reported assaults? He reported he does those things? Yet, he turns around and denies each individual victim report of the very same things. You can't have it both ways. Typical sociopathic, pathological, forked-tongue Trump. Is it okay because it's HIM? WHY?
He knew he best not point fingers at the reported multi-deviant child molester Moore. But he just couldn't resist with the singular Franken episode. (WHO DECENTLY APOLOGIZED AND TOOK RESPONSIBILITY as soon as he knew there was offense taken).
Bottom line, Trump's violations/denials have only to do with Trump and his victims and their loved ones/support. PARTICULAR wrongs. It doesn't have anything to do with Russia other than in the way one sociopathic behavior informs the NATURE of another in the same sociopath. It's the whole of Trump's actions and ANY significant misdeeds/illegalities that should be evaluated.
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...Careers destroyed and precedents set...all just collateral damage. You are already seeing people bringing up Trump stories that they haven't brought up since the election...every reputation destroyed
Are you kidding? Those Trump stories haven't gone away. Wishful thinking on the part of you and the like-minded. They've repeatedly been mentioned on this very board and in media features. And there have been the usual deflections, denials and counter offensives. As for careers and reputations destroyed, should there just be concern about consequences for Trump and other not-held-accountable reported violators? His reported assaultive behaviors don't seem to have done him much harm. Yes, those poor, poor violators let's all feel so sorry for them for any consequences they, in their arrogance and hubris, cause themselves. Give me a serious break!
How about the credible women victims who didn't know the assault was coming and were powerless to deal with the aftermath? What about the fallout for them and their lives/careers? Don't violate women (or anyone) if you don't want your chickens to someday come home to roost; at a not convenient time. There never is one for being held accountable for such violations. No violator, including Trump, should get a pass.
Women who know Donald Trump, and have known him for many years, including those who have worked for him, have said he is a perfect gentleman around women.
Oh really? Do you know ALL those women who have worked for Trump? Do they share their innermost thoughts with you?
Can you tell me more about the problems you were having with him at that time?
They had to do with the job. I had a lot of problems with him during the period of building Trump Tower and [renovating] the Plaza. He was getting in trouble with his financiers and he was having this affair with Marla [Maples, his second wife] and he was very hard to deal with sometimes. There was this stone that he had selected — it was a fine stone, but it was a cheaper version of a very expensive stone, and when he saw it installed he got very angry and he yelled at me and he blamed me for making him look cheap and he said it was ****. He got very, very upset about that. I was surprised by how upset. But we would have fights like that all the time.
Did his attitudes toward women change at some point?
You know, never until the Marla thing happened did I ever really hear him talking about women, and then after that he did talk about women in disparaging ways and he objectified women.
I think [that period] was a sea change in him. I think he started disparaging women a lot when he started going through his financial problems. He said that he was going off with women and he wasn't paying attention to his businesses, and his brother and the executives at the hotels and the casinos were letting business go down and he wasn't paying attention. He tied it to his dalliances with women.
He blamed the women he was cheating on his wife with for his financial problems?
Well, he sort of blames himself for not paying attention, but he said he couldn't resist it because so many women were after him — that kind of thing.
I've been saying this pretty much since the Harvey Weinstein story broke and I've mostly been ignored, but I think it's been the goal since the very beginning. The Russian collusion story is taking too long to wield any real results so it is time to go to plan B. First comes Harvey, then comes a laundry list of Hollywood stars, then some state level congressmen, then some national level congressmen and then, at long last, Trump himself. Careers destroyed and precedents set but it's all just collateral damage.
You are already seeing people bringing up Trump stories that they haven't brought up since the election. "In the context of the recent allegations..." posts and articles are starting to pop up and you are going to start seeing more of it. All of it, every allegation, every career that's been halted in its tracks, every apology made and every reputation destroyed have all just been props used to set the stage for the final act, taking down Donald Trump.
I may be ignored or mocked or have my judgement questioned for saying this but in a few months time many people will be singing the same tune and it will seem obvious in retrospect.
While it wouldn't surprise me, it would be the worst plot in political history. Each new accusation makes the public more jaded. By the time they get around to the final assault, most people will be so overwhelmed by the buildup that they won't care.
This is more similar to a dam having catastrophic failure. For decades, sexual misconduct was an open secret in Hollywood due to our societal unwillingness to hold celebrities to the same standards that we hold "normal" people. The downfall of Weinstein was the first crack in the dam, and once people realized that celebrities could fall the entire structure started to collapse. A lot of celebrities, both in film and in politics, will survive the storm. A lot won't. It won't really change anything long term, because humans in general are conditioned to believe that more money=more power=more immunity.
The "racist" epithet was wearing thin, so the lefty wackos had to find a new lie to tell.
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