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Old 01-05-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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Mississippi still allows spanking in school. Many school districts in that state use it. It doesn't stop the high rate of dropping out of school, kids fighting in school, and the general low rate of educational achievement compared to other states. Furthermore, Mississippi is going through a brain drain. Alot of the educated are leaving.
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Old 01-05-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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Mississippi still has some 1976 values. Good for them.

They are the opposite of PC Commiefornia
Mississippi is still reeling from demons in its past. Too much Old South in Mississippi, and it shows in some ways. One big pitfall is being many years behind is having race relations that reflect that. At least this is what people who have left Mississippi have told me. Have things gotten better? Of course. However, even as recent as the late 2000s, Mississippi still had "Black" and "White" proms.
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Old 01-05-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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I get a laugh out of the attempt to blame Mississippi's poverty on blacks. Good move, there righties - keep playing the race card while denying that racism is part of the party platform. Stay classy!

Of course, the reality is that Mississippi is riddle with poor whites and poor blacks, but that wouldn't fit the right-wing agenda, so we'll see no mention of reality on this forum.
Yep. I knew that would be the Conservative ticket...it’s the blacks fault.

Same crap rationale they used for the housing market crisis...that was our fault too.
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Old 01-05-2018, 02:16 PM
 
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As usual, Democrats fail at their understanding of the history behind southern politics.

While Republicans control Mississippi politics today, you do realize that Mississippi has only been under "complete Republican control" since 2012 when Republicans won complete control of the state legislature for the first time since Reconstruction?? And that the first elected GOP governor of Mississippi only took office in 1992? https://ballotpedia.org/Party_contro...ate_government ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Fordice

Mississippi has been a "mess" in many instances for well over a century. But to blame the GOP for that (the exact same argument can and must be made about West Virginia and other southern/conservative states) is ridiculous, given that party's relative recent domination of politics in the state. Democrats held the state back in many ways through their resistance to education reform, embrace of racism/KKK, and other means. It'll take much more than a few years of GOP control to turn around the disaster that total Dem control of these states created.

And as others have mentioned, its no secret that the most violent, poor areas in these states are in those parts controlled totally by Democrats.
The whole damn state is controlled by Republicans.

Don’t try to blame the condition of the state on Democrat dog catchers, school board members and Aldermen. The people that RUN Mississippi from top to bottom are Republican legislators.

Deal with it.
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Old 01-05-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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Mississippi is still reeling from demons in its past. Too much Old South in Mississippi, and it shows in some ways. One big pitfall is being many years behind is having race relations that reflect that. At least this is what people who have left Mississippi have told me. Have things gotten better? Of course. However, even as recent as the late 2000s, Mississippi still had "Black" and "White" proms.
In a couple of places, maybe. I think there is still one in the delta somewhere.

Race relations just depends where you are. Most places are fine; there are some where white people just are not welcome.
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Old 01-05-2018, 03:35 PM
 
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Mississippi has ALWAYS been troubled. Even during times of great national prosperity it's always the last state to share in it.

Compare that to California, which has not always been troubled, and for the 30 years after World War II was the single best place to live on the planet. (Whether Northern or Southern California during that period was better was a matter of individual taste, but both were very high up there). California when it was red and when it was purple thrived. Since CA has been blue as opposed to purple, prosperity in CA has been decidedly Northern-only. As opposed to in the past when it was both Northern and Southern (in the 1960s and 1970s Southern CA actually was richer than Northern CA)

Now there are a lot of causes for this. But those in power do deserve blame for what happened on their watch.
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Old 01-05-2018, 03:44 PM
 
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In a couple of places, maybe. I think there is still one in the delta somewhere.

Race relations just depends where you are. Most places are fine; there are some where white people just are not welcome.
Well, I've been through Mississippi a few times. However, what I know comes from what I read, and what I have been told by people who left Mississippi.

As for places where Whites are not welcomed, I as a Black man wouldn't live in those places either.
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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Lol, let's see. So California has Berkeley, Stanford, UCLA, UCSF to name a few, and Mississippi has ummm...
Lots of brilliant minds are based in California but as yet they have not figured out a way to teach algebra to LAUSD high school students.
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:22 PM
 
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Mississippi is still reeling from demons in its past. Too much Old South in Mississippi, and it shows in some ways. One big pitfall is being many years behind is having race relations that reflect that. At least this is what people who have left Mississippi have told me. Have things gotten better? Of course. However, even as recent as the late 2000s, Mississippi still had "Black" and "White" proms.
The various "gaps" between black and white, like incarceration rates and school achievement, are less in Mississippi than in many Northern states.
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:50 PM
 
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The various "gaps" between black and white, like incarceration rates and school achievement, are less in Mississippi than in many Northern states.
Only because Whites in Mississippi are poorer and are struggling more compared to Whites in other parts of the USA. Mississippi has a very poor Black population, one of the poorest in the USA. So does Wisconsin and Iowa. The difference is that Wisconsin and Iowa's White populations are doing better in terms of incarceration and school achievement.

Historically, Mississippi has been a state where a few do well and many, many people did poorly. It is a state where the elites have run it and the rest of the population didn't do as well. Blacks, who were basically oppressed under slavery, and then Jim Crow, suffered the worst. And Mississippi has historically been a state that was heavily invested in the plantation economy. This didn't help either.

Contrast this with Wisconsin, which had few Blacks to speak of(especially outside of Milwaukee and Racine) and most of the state's Black population arrived after WWII. Most came from Mississippi and were there to work in the factories. When factory jobs declined, Black unemployment went up heavily, as Milwaukee had a lion's share of its Black population working in the factories.

By the way, I was not talking about "gaps". I was talking about the social climate.
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