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Old 01-13-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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Very strongly and respectfully disagree with the OP. As a Democrat, I would love to have Norway's universal healthcare, free education, public pensions and strong unions. 30% of Norway's employees work for the government with Denmark at 38%. Their economy allows employees to retire early. By all means, if Trump wants the U.S. to become Norway, let's begin.
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:20 PM
 
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Sounds like a lot of towns an cities in the U.S. today. It was so different 50-60 years ago. Not that these things didn't exist back then but not near at much as it does today.
Exactly, we already did the diversity, multiculturalism experiment over the past 50-60 years that was a dubious idea from the start. Today the results are long in. It was and is a dismal failure. But liberals think the solution is to double down on those failed policies and scapegoating and blaming it all on whites that their policies haven't and aren't working. At this point, there's no excuse or justification. Liberals are just being destructive.
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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Exactly, we already did the diversity, multiculturalism experiment over the past 50-60 years that was a dubious idea from the start. Today the results are long in. It was and is a dismal failure. But liberals think the solution is to double down on those failed policies and scapegoating and blaming it all on whites. At this point, there's no excuse or justification. Liberals are just being destructive.

GREAT, spot on, post.
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:24 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdiHKZkwAzE

El Salvador


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnGlxpZ5wAQ

Haiti neighborhood


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUAULbdZjsE

Oslo, Norway

Democrats dream is to make America more like El Salvador and Haiti with massive slums full of debris, waste and makeshift homes. We see it all the time with Eric Garcetti who is the mayor of Los Angeles is trying to make his city more and more like Central America with a very small, ultra-rich elite and the rest can eat cake and live a third-world lifestyle.
Wait. I thought you guys were calling Norway socialist in nature. Which is it that we Dem's are supposed to be dreaming about?
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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Sounds like you agree with Trump that we need immigrants from Norway, not from Haiti.
Why in the world would any Norwegians want to live here unless they happened to fall hopelessly in love with an American?
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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Very strongly and respectfully disagree with the OP. As a Democrat, I would love to have Norway's universal healthcare, free education, public pensions and strong unions. 30% of Norway's employees work for the government with Denmark at 38%. Their economy allows employees to retire early. By all means, if Trump wants the U.S. to become Norway, let's begin.
Even so, the way to get there is to convince Americans and politicians and vice versa to go that way. Liberals' mass immigration from the 3rd world and any and every place but the likes of Norway will not create "Norway". It'll create the anti-thesis. Neither is liberals scapegoating all the Americans of similar ancestry to countries like Norway who might be receptive to social programs but are put off by liberals attacking them. What kind of paradise is that where the founding stock and historical majority are made the scapegoats in order to pander to the others?
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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Yeah, I mean it isn't like Haiti had a massive earthquake that leveled the country or anything...
It was a utopia before that?
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:41 PM
 
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It was a utopia before that?


Here's Haitian immigrant Alix Idrache graduating from West point and is from a so called '****hole' country:

https://i.redd.it/t7lvspypkw901.jpg



I hope the GOP really feels ashamed of themselves (but of course I know they won't). Meanwhile, their lobster in chief has never served his country.

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Old 01-13-2018, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Here's Haitian immigrant Alix Idrache graduating from West point and is from a so called '****hole' country:

I hope the GOP really feels ashamed of themselves (but of course I know they won't). Meanwhile, their lobster in chief has never served his country.
I knew something like that was coming.

Of course there are examples of people from these third-world countries, who immigrated to the United States and served the country over the years.

The reality is though that for every person who immigrated from a third-world country at a young age and served the country or became a big job creator there are 100 plus examples of third-world immigrants who come to the United States and have been in the welfare system ever since arriving.

https://www.local10.com/news/crime/m...o-gun-violence

Just two weeks, Miami-Dade police had a press conference with community leaders over concerns about rampant gun violence in Little Haiti.

The Pico-Union area of Los Angeles which is majority El Salvadorian and has severe issues with crime rates.

Here is a newspaper article from the liberal LA times about MS-13 gang members from El Salvador that have overwhelmed certain neighborhoods in Los Angeles.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...517-story.html

I am sure there are many very successful and hard-working El Salvordian immigrants in LA but the reality is the El Salvordian core neighborhoods have tremendous amounts of gang members and extremely high crime rates
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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I knew something like that was coming.

Of course there are examples of people from these third-world countries, who immigrated to the United States and served the country over the years.

The reality is though that for every person who immigrated from a third-world country at a young age and served the country or became a big job creator there are 100 plus examples of third-world immigrants who come to the United States and have been in the welfare system ever since arriving.

https://www.local10.com/news/crime/m...o-gun-violence

Just two weeks, Miami-Dade police had a press conference with community leaders over concerns about rampant gun violence in Little Haiti.

The Pico-Union area of Los Angeles which is majority El Salvadorian and has severe issues with crime rates.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZIow_nbncM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh4LHmpARz4

I am sure there are many very successful and hard-working El Salvordian immigrants in LA but the reality is the El Salvordian core neighborhoods have tremendous amounts of gang members and extremely high crime rates

Correct. But lefties know they can't talk about the macro effects of the invasion they seek to allow.
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