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Alan Dershowitz, a liberal and Jewish, has been on Fox news making several "conservative" arguments and even defending the Trump administration. Surprisingly I found myself agreeing with him. But there's one thing he like all liberals are adamant about-mass globalized immigration.
Last night on Hannity addressing Trumps alleged "s-hole countries" comment, Dershowitz said Trump should apologize, and "we" should never say anything bad about any craphole countries and should openly accept immigration from all countries. Uh okay because why??
He went on to say, his grandfather immigrated from a European country, presumably in the early 1900s and accordingly we should always welcome immigration forever from everywhere.
What? First off just because America allowed in his grandfather in from Europe probably over a 100 years ago, what does that have to do with letting in immigrants from the third world today.
Furthermore, this stands reason and fairness on its head. Why does allowing an immigrant in at one time from a given place obligate America to allow any other from anywhere going forward? That's completely backwards. The countries that America allowed immigrants in the past are obligated to accept Americans openly if anything. Israel if any nation is obligated to accept immigrants especially Americans and Westerns after hosting the Jewish diaspora for centuries for example.
Perhaps he believes the merit-based immigration process should focus on the individual rather than the nation they emigrate from. People from varying countries aren't carbon copies of one another. There are some well-educated, self-supporting individuals from Haiti just as there are some poverty-stricken Norwegians.
Alan Dershowitz, a liberal and Jewish, has been on Fox news making several "conservative" arguments and even defending the Trump administration. Surprisingly I found myself agreeing with him. But there's one thing he like all liberals are adamant about-mass globalized immigration.
Last night on Hannity addressing Trumps alleged "s-hole countries" comment, Dershowitz said Trump should apologize, and "we" should never say anything bad about any craphole countries and should openly accept immigration from all countries. Uh okay because why??
He went on to say, his grandfather immigrated from a European country, presumably in the early 1900s and accordingly we should always welcome immigration forever from everywhere.
What? First off just because America allowed in his grandfather in from Europe probably over a 100 years ago, what does that have to do with letting in immigrants from the third world today.
Furthermore, this stands reason and fairness on its head. Why does allowing an immigrant in at one time from a given place obligate America to allow any other from anywhere going forward? That's completely backwards. The countries that America allowed immigrants in the past are obligated to accept Americans openly if anything. Israel if any nation is obligated to accept immigrants especially Americans and Westerns after hosting the Jewish diaspora for centuries for example.
And where did your ancestors come from? Why are you denying the same opportunities to new emigrants that were afforded to your ancestors?
Why the U.S. should be the default depository for every criminal, refugee, potential terrorist, uneducated, poor person in the world is beyond me. Other countries have very strict immigration requirements. Why shouldn't we?
If we held this logic for the last hundred years, then we would have only been immigrating from the same countries. We are the land of opportunity and we need to remember what we stand for and why we fought for our independence. Are those people from Haiti and elsewhere not worthy enough to improve their lives and the lives of their children and families? That is why everyone fights to get here. What is so wrong about what Trump said and is doing with his immigration policies is that he's basically saying that a large swath of the world is not worth fighting for. He's deciding that those immigrants do nothing for Trump, then they are not worth helping. There is so much that Trump says and does that is completely against everything that Americans should stand for.
And where did your ancestors come from? Why are you denying the same opportunities to new emigrants that were afforded to your ancestors?
I'm not the person you asked this of, but I'll answer anyway. Half of my ancestors didn't come from anywhere - they were here when the Europeans showed up. The other half came from Norway, France, and England.
Our immigration policy should not be based on what we "used" to do. Times change, resources become limited, available housing becomes full. Economically, we can't continue the way we've been going. We will, eventually, reach a tipping point. As one of the most popular countries for immigrants to come to, we should be setting standards which require immigrants to have skills or education which will contribute to our society, not bringing in people who have no skills, limited education, and will end up on government assistance.
Perhaps he believes the merit-based immigration process should focus on the individual rather than the nation they emigrate from. People from varying countries aren't carbon copies of one another. There are some well-educated, self-supporting individuals from Haiti just as there are some poverty-stricken Norwegians.
Who Dershowitz or Trump? That's exactly what Trump is doing. He wants the highest achieving immigrants from anywhere. Now how many of those are coming from say Haiti? Certainly not all if any of the "all the people coming in from s-hole countries" as Trump allegedly said are high achieving and self sustaining.
I paraphrased Dershowitz and it's very clear he was saying don't criticize craphole countries just freely allow in immigration from all those third world nations....because his grandfather was allowed in from Europe 100 or so years ago. It's ass backwards.
I'm not the person you asked this of, but I'll answer anyway. Half of my ancestors didn't come from anywhere - they were here when the Europeans showed up. The other half came from Norway, France, and England.
Our immigration policy should not be based on what we "used" to do. Times change, resources become limited, available housing becomes full. Economically, we can't continue the way we've been going. We will, eventually, reach a tipping point. As one of the most popular countries for immigrants to come to, we should be setting standards which require immigrants to have skills or education which will contribute to our society, not bringing in people who have no skills, limited education, and will end up on government assistance.
I totally agree. Back then we needed manual laborers to build our country. It didn't matter if they were poor because there was no welfare state back then. They rolled up their sleeves and worked and if they couldn't make it here they returned to their homelands. Our needs have changed over the past 100 years and we no longer need those types of immigrants. I seriously doubt that there are many well educated, well off Haitians that are even applying to migrate here if so then let them in. But for the most part they are not that type of immigrant and they would be a burden to our society rather than a benefit. I don't know why so many people think that we should base our immigration policies today on what was needed a 100 years ago. It's truly mind boggling.
And where did your ancestors come from? Why are you denying the same opportunities to new emigrants that were afforded to your ancestors?
For the same reasons every country and Israel doesn't just allow me and the rest of the world to immigrate maybe?
My ancestors were not afforded any opportunities in the 1600-1800 when they came, just low pay or just some food for hard labor if that, some were indentured. They primarily came from the British Isles and were already British citizens/subjects and didn't immigrate to begin with. So there's no comparison between then and today.
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