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View Poll Results: Support putting the citizen and military first.
YES 70 85.37%
NO 12 14.63%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-20-2018, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Houston
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And if he wasn’t healthy, you and all the Leftist Nazi’s would be going wild about how he is physically unfit and thus need to step down.
Nazis are right wing. Your attempt at spreading disinformation is laughable.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Healthy President Trump says he will not negotiate on DACA until the military and gov. paid. Putting citizen first.

I support that position. It forces the Dems to support the American citizen.

A nation that won't pay for its defense is weakened and the enemy is embolden to attack. Its the prime directive of government.
No excuse to vote against paying the military. Dems will cave eventually.

Its a public poll.
And a public response---As soon as I see 'force the Dems' as a reason...I knew I'd disagree. This is not about partisan BS to me.

1) Our military in no danger of being weakened--I can only assume you've never served? I doubt anyone is emboldened...if they are..I'm almost sorry for them. Terrorists won't give a hoot about some shutdown...they do what they do. They won't miss a paycheck:

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/18/...military-trump

2) As a logical matter..why would the Dems cave? This shutdown isn't going to mean squat in November..this will be a referendum on Trump and what people think about the direction the country is taking.

As an aside, I think the Dems screwed up...they over-played their hands by trying to sneak in that clause extending hardship refugees..a policy Trump had just shut down---he perceived it as a direct slap in the face...and that was that.

But still...Trump has a much worse perception problem than the Democratic Party....unless, of course, you're one of the 34%..in which case..it doesn't really matter.

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Old 01-20-2018, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by phma View Post
Healthy President Trump says he will not negotiate on DACA until the military and gov. paid. Putting citizen first.

I support that position. It forces the Dems to support the American citizen.

A nation that won't pay for its defense is weakened and the enemy is embolden to attack. Its the prime directive of government.
No excuse to vote against paying the military. Dems will cave eventually.

Its a public poll.
There needs to be more choices than this. Military is already too bloated and the income tax “refunds” weren’t given out fairly.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Nazis are right wing. Your attempt at spreading disinformation is laughable.
It is so funny...they're still trying to push that lame narrative.

Had one tell me that Nazi's were Socialist because they had Socialist in their name! Not being informed enough to know that Hitler put that in the party name to draw in the working class...who had been fighting with the Govt. over wages--Germany had a large Socialist contingent that had name recognition..so Hitler co-opted the name. This is widely known...standard stuff for the student of the era.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:08 PM
 
Location: California
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I'm angry about the whole DACA fiasco, beginning with Obama who created the damn program. It was a sh1t thing to do knowing the country didn't want another blanket amnesty to absorb a couple million people and basically render the our borders moot. It certainly shouldn't be holding up a national budget. There has been too little AMERICA in American politics.
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Old 01-21-2018, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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I'm angry about the whole DACA fiasco, beginning with Obama who created the damn program. It was a sh1t thing to do knowing the country didn't want another blanket amnesty to absorb a couple million people and basically render the our borders moot. It certainly shouldn't be holding up a national budget. There has been too little AMERICA in American politics.
Of course, The Republicans could give in and vote DACA--like 80% of the American public want. THEY are holding the govt. up---with their intransigence.

I would also put it to you that you do not get to decide what the country wants--and our borders are hardly moot.
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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The problem with illegal immigration is our own doing because of the 14 amendment. You can build a wall but that won't stop people from other countries coming here to give birth for automatic citizenship.

Except the 14th Amendment does not make birthright citizens of children born from illegal alien parents. It's merely been a PC policy so it needs to be clarified once and for all. At least you are admitting that this is one of their selfish motives and why these babies are called "anchor babies".
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Old 01-21-2018, 10:01 AM
 
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I'm angry about the whole DACA fiasco, beginning with Obama who created the damn program. It was a sh1t thing to do knowing the country didn't want another blanket amnesty to absorb a couple million people and basically render the our borders moot. It certainly shouldn't be holding up a national budget. There has been too little AMERICA in American politics.

I feel the same way. Good post!
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Old 01-21-2018, 10:04 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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What does his being "healthy" have to do with this? You mean like healthy in the midsection, or the fake hair department?

Is this kinda like when the Trump force needs to bullhorn what a "stable genius" he is?
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