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You misrepresent what I wrote. I never said some people who might fall under DACA have not (and will not) ever be deported.
I'm saying what Bob wants will never happen (all dreamers deported).
Actually I would support Trump's original deal. The Wall plus an end to chain migration (and I would add pass RAISE Act) and with all of that, I would be ok with allowing DACA kids w/o any record at all including a single misdemeanor, and who have paid taxes in full, on time, every year, with proof, to stay in America. I would allow them an additional 25 year path to citizenship, at which time they would be allowed to vote.
Excuse me. Logical and conservative and "pathway to citizenship for Dreamers" can't go together. More "Dreamer" citizens = millions of liberal Democrat votes.
So if it makes economic sense, it's the compassionate thing to do and a bunch of republicans already support a pathway to citizenship, why do so many republicans and Trump still oppose a pathway to citizenship for dreamers?
The only reasons I can think of is that they're racist or not terribly bright.. or both.
I am a libertarian who is conservative on some issues. I am neither a racist nor dumb IMHO.
You seem like you don't understand how one becomes a citizen and the current legal status of DACA recipients. They cannot leapfrog from visa holders to citizen. So I don't know what you are talking about.
Most have a visa at the moment. Similar to what Mexican Nationals get when they visit the united states. I am fine with DACA recipients being upgraded to a green card status. They get to renew it every 10 years or so.
I think giving them green cards is a good compromise from the far right that wants to deport them and the far left that wants to make the citizens.
I don't see any reason to make them citizens. I know people who moved here years ago and have a green card and have no interests in being a citizen. Nothing really changes except being able to vote and get more public assistance. You can work, go to school, collect social security and do whatever you want as a green card holder. And as a green card holder they cannot sponsor others to move here. Which is an issue to some people. And if they get into trouble and go to prison you can deport a green card holder, not usually a citizen.
There is no positive economic sense to granting DACA recipients citizenship. None.
I am a libertarian who is conservative on some issues. I am neither a racist nor dumb IMHO.
You seem like you don't understand how one becomes a citizen and the current legal status of DACA recipients. They cannot leapfrog from visa holders to citizen. So I don't know what you are talking about.
Most have a visa at the moment. Similar to what Mexican Nationals get when they visit the united states. I am fine with DACA recipients being upgraded to a green card status. They get to renew it every 10 years or so.
I think giving them green cards is a good compromise from the far right that wants to deport them and the far left that wants to make the citizens.
I don't see any reason to make them citizens. I know people who moved here years ago and have a green card and have no interests in being a citizen. Nothing really changes except being able to vote and get more public assistance. You can work, go to school, collect social security and do whatever you want as a green card holder. And as a green card holder they cannot sponsor others to move here. Which is an issue to some people. And if they get into trouble and go to prison you can deport a green card holder, not usually a citizen.
There is no positive economic sense to granting DACA recipients citizenship. None.
Agree it is the best and fairest compromise . In exchange for not deporting the illegals and as a separate issue, I still want the wall since even legalization will draw more illegal immigration. And a reduction to legal immigration that leads to citizenship.
I am a libertarian who is conservative on some issues. I am neither a racist nor dumb IMHO.
You seem like you don't understand how one becomes a citizen and the current legal status of DACA recipients. They cannot leapfrog from visa holders to citizen. So I don't know what you are talking about.
Most have a visa at the moment. Similar to what Mexican Nationals get when they visit the united states. I am fine with DACA recipients being upgraded to a green card status. They get to renew it every 10 years or so.
I think giving them green cards is a good compromise from the far right that wants to deport them and the far left that wants to make the citizens.
I don't see any reason to make them citizens. I know people who moved here years ago and have a green card and have no interests in being a citizen. Nothing really changes except being able to vote and get more public assistance. You can work, go to school, collect social security and do whatever you want as a green card holder. And as a green card holder they cannot sponsor others to move here. Which is an issue to some people. And if they get into trouble and go to prison you can deport a green card holder, not usually a citizen.
There is no positive economic sense to granting DACA recipients citizenship. None.
A reasonable solution is to make their residency status legal, assuming they meet the requirements of the DACA program. Once legal, they can pursue whatever citizenship paths that any other legal resident can, likely many years or decades down the road.
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. In exchange for not deporting the illegals and as a separate issue, I still want the wall since even legalization will draw more illegal immigration. And a reduction to legal immigration that leads to citizenship.
