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Old 02-02-2018, 04:59 PM
 
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Let's say that Trump really did scheme with his top advisors to have Russia hack the election. The number of people spied upon on his team and that were tied to him was in the THOUSANDS. If Trump was doing something nasty, he probably wouldn't be telling of his scheme to all those thousands of people on his team.

As such, that would mean that there was NO probable cause to spy upon those people. That means that the Obama administration, even if Trump WERE guilty, greatly breached the 4th Amendment. Now, if it was just some rogue guys at the FBI and NSA, etc, doing this, why didn't the Democrats support firing and arresting them for their actions rather than trying to cover for them?


That is the BEST case scenario for the Democrats, that they'd still have to be held accountable for a blatant 4th Amendment violation.

Now, the more likely scenario is that they schemed to rig the election and that it with that British dude, the media, and several people in the FBI and the intelligence agency that participated to try and set Trump up for a bogus charge in the event that he did win. That is a HUGE federal crime!
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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Bargaining stage already?
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:08 PM
 
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Bargaining stage already?
Nope, the Russian thing has failed.
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:08 PM
 
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Let's say that Trump really did scheme with his top advisors to have Russia hack the election. The number of people spied upon on his team and that were tied to him was in the THOUSANDS. ...
Are you saying that thousands of Trump campaign workers were spied upon? Really? ... that's what you are claiming?

Do you understand what the investigation is all about?
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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Nope, the Russian thing has failed.
How so?
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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Indictments will be coming soon. Mind my words!

This is not Gross Negligence but breaking the law!

It doesn't matter which party affiliation you have or not have. Any person should be outraged that the FBI under false pretenses gets warrants!

Where is Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, BLM ... oh wait the victims are white!

But what and how many other warrants may have been obtained under false pretenses?
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:12 PM
 
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How so?
Where is it now? More and more it points to Hillary.

No collusion, etc.

But by all means keep trying, you will deepen the embarrassment.
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:14 PM
 
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Indictments will be coming soon. Mind my words!

This is not Gross Negligence but breaking the law!

It doesn't matter which party affiliation you have or not have. Any person should be outraged that the FBI under false pretenses gets warrants!

Where is Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, BLM ... oh wait the victims are white!

But what and how many other warrants may have been obtained under false pretenses?
I know that. What I meant is, best case scenario for the Democrats, they still overdid it big time by spying on tons of innocent people without just cause, yet their backers still defend them even with, best case scenario for Obama and Hillary, they still broke the law!

I have no doubt that the Democrats, the FBI, and the media tried to frame Trump and say we should start investigating these fake news journalists like Mother Jones too.
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:14 PM
 
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How so?
Show us collusion....We will all wait.
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:15 PM
 
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Reading too much into it. Really. This is overblown. there are no secrets or real privacy- we try to limit the intrusion but it happens in alllll sides.
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