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Old 02-03-2018, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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No doubt!!!

Everything the Democrats are doing now will pay huge dividends in the years to come.

Obviously Mueller has exactly zero, zip, nada or he would do something other than shuffle papers while postponing the inevitable.

Flynn convicted and cooperating. Papadopolous convicted and cooperating. Rick Gates indicted and drops his legal team among rumors of cooperating with Mueller with his new attorney. Manafort indicted. Mueller has nothing?

I'd say Mueller + 2 maybe 3.

Republican's 0 including that big nothing burger embarrassment of a memo.

It's okay mo. Stay in your safe place because I have a feeling it's not going well for dictator wanna be. Who's next? Kushner?

Anyone else excited about the movie in about 5 years?
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Anyone else excited about the movie in about 5 years?
Redford gets a cameo! Not sure about Hoffman with his recent press.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:11 PM
 
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The FISA warrant was illegally obtained. Case dismissed, as any evidence obtained through the warrant is inadmissible in court.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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The FISA warrant was illegally obtained. Case dismissed, as any evidence obtained through the warrant is inadmissible in court.
So what you're saying is the Trump Team guilty of collusion?

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Old 02-03-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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Well except that none of it points to Hillary, and collusion isnt a crime, its all the things around it....Like hacking the DNC, receiving assistance from a foreign power, money laundering, etc etc etc. And more and more evidence shows up every day.

And so far the only embarrassment has been the Nunes memo that got insanely overhyped only to turn out to be so much nonsense.
And yet it’s all inconclusive.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:27 PM
 
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It's funny how you conservatives harp on about police officers not being supported enough. Now all of the sudden you want to throw the FBI under the bus. You people are so confusing.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Are you saying that thousands of Trump campaign workers were spied upon? Really? ... that's what you are claiming?

Do you understand what the investigation is all about?
No. Only one. As in, "only one bank was robbed".
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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It's funny how you conservatives harp on about police officers not being supported enough. Now all of the sudden you want to throw the FBI under the bus. You people are so confusing.
What an insane comment.
No one ever wanted guilty police officers "supported". You just made that up so your argument would seem to make sense.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Let's say that Trump really did scheme with his top advisors to have Russia hack the election. The number of people spied upon on his team and that were tied to him was in the THOUSANDS. If Trump was doing something nasty, he probably wouldn't be telling of his scheme to all those thousands of people on his team.

As such, that would mean that there was NO probable cause to spy upon those people. That means that the Obama administration, even if Trump WERE guilty, greatly breached the 4th Amendment. Now, if it was just some rogue guys at the FBI and NSA, etc, doing this, why didn't the Democrats support firing and arresting them for their actions rather than trying to cover for them?
You do not know what the probable cause for surveillance on Carter Page was. Why don't you know? Because the GOP doesn't want you to know. There is nothing in the 'memo' that states this was the sole reason to surveil Page. Nothing. You have no idea what else they had that made Page suspect.

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That is the BEST case scenario for the Democrats, that they'd still have to be held accountable for a blatant 4th Amendment violation.

Now, the more likely scenario is that they schemed to rig the election and that it with that British dude, the media, and several people in the FBI and the intelligence agency that participated to try and set Trump up for a bogus charge in the event that he did win. That is a HUGE federal crime!
The BEST case scenario according strictly to your 'assumptions' connecting dots with crooked lines, and that is it.

Why did the FBI try to rig the election against Trump by announcing in a letter to Congress an investigation of Clinton's emails a week or so before the election? Odd way of 'helping Clinton'.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:37 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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How so?
Trump has denied any collusion and his supporters have his back. That is good enough.
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