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View Poll Results: Other than the shooter, who do you think is most responsible for the tragedy
Youtube, for deleting the warning comments of someone on the video 1 0.71%
The FBI 19 13.57%
The sheriff and his deputies 19 13.57%
The NRA 21 15.00%
Donald Trump 1 0.71%
The Second Amendment 6 4.29%
The FBI AND the sheriff and deputies and maybe Youtube too 51 36.43%
Other 22 15.71%
Voters: 140. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-14-2018, 05:59 PM
 
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"What is the "cause" of all these office shootings, school shootings etc.? "

Mental illness. Nobody wants to do anything about it though.
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Old 02-14-2018, 05:59 PM
 
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As a mother of two young children, my first thought is what are we as a society doing wrong while raising our children that creates evil? If we can figure that out and solve it I am 100 percent certain there would much less gun shootings. After all, happy children do not kill classmates by whatever means, they just don’t.
Depends on the children. Psychopathic children/people are very happy when they kill people. They get a thrill rush from it. There are sociopaths and psychopaths all over the world.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:00 PM
 
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Hopefully bombs will be legalized under the second amendment and we can start going down the bomb store and get them.
At one time, you could go to the hardware store and by dynamite. It was commonly used to remove tree stumps on cleared land. 1/4 stick and no stump.

Of course, this would greatly upset some today.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This dude just killed 17 and injured countless others without any trouble using an AR 15!
and he could have done the same thing with a Henry rifle, or even a revolver
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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At one time, you could go to the hardware store and by dynamite. It was commonly used to remove tree stumps on cleared land. 1/4 stick and no stump.

Of course, this would greatly upset some today.


Remember the old M-80's fire works?? They were a quarter stick of dynamite.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:03 PM
 
Location: PSL
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This dude just killed 17 and injured countless others without any trouble using an AR 15!
So what you're saying is the guy has issues? Which coincides with what former classmates have said about the scumbag...


We're making progress... starting to blame the individual is a step in the right direction.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:04 PM
 
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Wow.

You're seriously contemplating leaving the U.S.? I don't know if we can discuss it here but I'd like to get to know the details about this.
F, yeah. I have for about decade really. These shootings are just another thing that became more of an issue for me after I had children. My husband has dual citizenship and we'd qualify for places like New Zealand and Canada (anything can be had for a price, right?) We didn't move forward with it because I had a decent work-from-home corporate gig that paid well (I needed to be on the East Coast). But I was laid off last summer and am now just focusing on our online biz. No more tethers, wide open world.

Let's start a thread
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:05 PM
 
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This is a very tired old argument. The answer is, and always will be, is that guns are made to kill. They aren't used in cutting up food. They aren't used to hammer in a nail. They aren't used for transportation.

However, next time over 50 people are killed by a guy with a hammer, let me know. As I said in another thread, the Vegas killer didn't throw down dinner knives for a reason.
Sometimes, people need to kill someone. Nothing wrong with preventing someone else from harming yourself or others.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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Default A way to prevent most of the school shootings

Armed guards aside (very expensive if done across the country), I think the best way to stop the violence is to try and prevent the situations that cause it. I can see a correlation in the decrease in two things that, if corrected, could stop MOST of these shooting years before they even happen!


1.) Discipline in the school
2.) Discipline at home


In the past, there was usually one parent always home. Also, single families were a lot rarer. Also, schools were a lot freer to use discipline than there were now and so were parents at home.


Now, kids are entitled at home and don't get enough correction at home (as can be clearly seen from the snowflakes at colleges, among others.) as well as at schools (I even heard that the previous President had a ruling that there was a quota on how many people of certain races could be disciplined, etc. Not trying to bring race into this, but should point out that guidelines like that DON'T help!)
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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May we all come together and reach across the aisle and send prayers for these folks.

For the sake of our children in this Country.
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