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Old 03-08-2018, 02:39 PM
 
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How does it impose on you? You aren't forced personally to accept anything. What exactly changes in your life when Pete and Joe get married?
How would putting the ten commandment or statues and everything else they want to tear down anywhere and everywhere affect liberals?
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:41 PM
 
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How would putting the ten commandment or statues and everything else they want to tear down anywhere and everywhere affect liberals?
Putting ten commandments on the steps of government buildings is pretty obvious to any adult, it shouldn't need to be explained to you the difference.
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:41 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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How would putting the ten commandment or statues and everything else they want to tear down anywhere and everywhere affect liberals?
Because the First Amendment says we shall not have establishment of religion. Why is that so hard for conservatives to understand?

Baptists may believe they have a God-given right to rule society with an iron fist and impose their will on everyone but our Constitution says otherwise.
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:41 PM
 
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Forcing people to completely accept gay marriage is sort of oppressive but definitely imposing. Gays were already long allowed to live in ways others might not have approved. That wasn't good enough and they forced complete acceptance and normalization and survivor benefits.
How does gays receiving equal rights and the mere existence of gay marriage impose on you?
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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If they do nothing else then it's receiving tax payer-supported benefits and tax benefits.
Pooooor you....

Just think about it this way, YOUR tax dollars are going to the tax breaks that Trump is enjoying. MY tax dollars are going to the benefits for same-sex marriage. So no imposition on you or me.
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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So gays receiving equal rights and the mere existence of gay marriage imposes on you in what way?
It imposes on their right to rule society and dictate what people can and can't do in their private lives. Yes, Baptists believe they are entitled to that right and that everyone else should submit to them.
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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First off not everything every person who identifies with being a Christian does has to be comport with the new testament, or even the old. But he wasn't exactly teaching pacifism, and those example you give aren't incompatible with Christianity. What do you want? To live in a historically Christian nation but only atheist can impose their social values or what?
Jesus wasn't exactly teaching pacifism?

Luke 6:27-31
“But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.”

How do Christian read this and then justify stockpiling funs, worshipping the military and defunding social services? These seem like generally non-Christian things to do.
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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If they do nothing else then it's receiving tax payer-supported benefits and tax benefits.
So every straight couple that gets married is imposing on your life too?

Should all marriages be invalidated and made illegal going forward?
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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Because the First Amendment says we shall not have establishment of religion. Why is that so hard for conservatives to understand?

Baptists may believe they have a God-given right to rule society with an iron fist and impose their will on everyone but our Constitution says otherwise.
And we never had an establishment of religion, but many leftist want to tear down and extinguish Christianity and the first amendment etc and anything else traditional American.
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Forcing people to completely accept gay marriage is sort of oppressive but definitely imposing. Gays were already long allowed to live in ways others might not have approved. That wasn't good enough and they forced complete acceptance and normalization and survivor benefits.
You don't have to "completely accept" it. You don't have to go to a same-sex marriage, you don't have to invite gay couples to your next dinner party. If you want to attend a church that does not recognize such unions, you are free to do so.

You tell me one way, one single way, that allowing same-sex couples to marry has harmed you personally, other than offending your sense of propriety, and then we can have an honest discussion.
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