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the overthrow of Communist regimes in Eastern Europe.
You're joking, right?
The USSR got overthrown by an unarmed populace, that's true. It's the rare exception.
Have you checked the 1917 October revolution? The Ukraine Holodomor? China's Cultural Revolution? Slave collection in Africa? Killing Fields in Cambodia? The endless wars in ancient China and pre-China?
Untold millions (all unarmed) of civilians got killed in all of them. Plus you might look into attempted revolutions that didn't succeed. Even more millions died.
The fact that totalitarian government have fallen slightly short of a 100% score in killing off most of their unarmed populations during coup attempts, is NOT a point in favor of having unarmed populations.
Unless you take the government's view, of course, who found it just dandy.
The USSR got overthrown by an unarmed populace, that's true. It's the rare exception.
Have you checked the 1917 October revolution? The Ukraine Holodomor? China's Cultural Revolution? Slave collection in Africa? Killing Fields in Cambodia? The endless wars in ancient China and pre-China?
Untold millions (all unarmed) of civilians got killed in all of them. Plus you might look into attempted revolutions that didn't succeed. Even more millions died.
The fact that totalitarian government have fallen slightly short of a 100% score in killing off most of their unarmed populations during coup attempts, is NOT a point in favor of having unarmed populations.
Unless you take the government's view, of course, who found it just dandy.
Arming the civilian population and utilizing them as militias is how most of these tyrannies come into power. Governments generally don't casually slide into tyranny, they are usually overthrown with violence by the civilian population who then installs a tyrannical government.
1917 October Revolution (Russia)
Communist insurgency 1927-37) (China)
Spanish Civil War
Cuba
Cambodia
Generally when a armed civilian population rise up, they install tyranny.
Contrast that to the peaceful and unarmed uprisings in Poland who removed the yoke of communism and established a democracy.
Spain (1975) who reversed decades of fascist rule and established itself as a democracy without a shot being fired.
Doesn't matter...at the end of the day the southern armed civilian was doing his part to help create a tyrannical slave state. Where half the population was denied their right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". The Confederacy and the Civil War would never have happened if we didn't have a heavily armed civilian population.
as i noted, the southern states SECEDED from the union, and thus the US constitution on longer applied to them, since they had their own country and their own laws. this is the same mistake liberals make today when other countries hold american criminals in their prisons. they think that americans should be getting their constitutional rights, when the constitution does not apply outside the US.
also dont forget that there were slaves that also DEFENDED the confederacy, in other words they also fought to keep slavery. and there were slaves that were freed that fought on the yankee side as well, at least they got something out it the effort in winning. had the south won, the slaves that fought for the south, would still be slaves.
as for the civil war never happening without guns? rubbish. britain and france both supplied weapons to the south, among other things, so guns would have been available to the southern states.
Guns can't do anything in the year 2018 - what happened to common sense here. Someone like Edward Snowden is much more impactful than some conservative in Texas who thinks he can take down a drone with a shotgun.
No doubt, not only that but being politically active and participating in our democracy. Encouraging free speech and free and independent media. Higher education, learning about the past, remembering our history. All this will keep us free, more than some guy in Alabama sitting with a gun collection waiting before things get out of control before he finally takes action...and then it's too late.
as i noted, the southern states SECEDED from the union, and thus the US constitution on longer applied to them, since they had their own country and their own laws. this is the same mistake liberals make today when other countries hold american criminals in their prisons. they think that americans should be getting their constitutional rights, when the constitution does not apply outside the US.
also dont forget that there were slaves that also DEFENDED the confederacy, in other words they also fought to keep slavery. and there were slaves that were freed that fought on the yankee side as well, at least they got something out it the effort in winning. had the south won, the slaves that fought for the south, would still be slaves.
as for the civil war never happening without guns? rubbish. britain and france both supplied weapons to the south, among other things, so guns would have been available to the southern states.
The Confederacy tried to succeed from the Union and they failed spectacularly. They still fell under the rule of law of the US government hence they were treated like traitors to the nation, because they were. Whether they tried to disguise the issue as one of states rights at the end of the day it was all about slavery and the confederates wanted to create a tyrannical state that enslaved half the population through force (armed white civilians).
France never supplied the Confederacy with any weapons. Britain supplied some rifles and bought cotton from the Confederates but didn't do much to hold them up with armaments. Supply problems in the confederacy meant that many confederate soldiers supplied their own weapons and uniform. Something that wouldn't have happened if the civilian population wasn't armed.
So far in American history we have only seen armed civilians used to install a tyrannical government.
No doubt, not only that but being politically active and participating in our democracy. Encouraging free speech and free and independent media. Higher education, learning about the past, remembering our history. All this will keep us free, more than some guy in Alabama sitting with a gun collection waiting before things get out of control before he finally takes action...and then it's too late.
Exactly, this is how civilized countries keep and maintain a healthy and free democracy.
The Confederacy tried to succeed from the Union and they failed spectacularly. They still fell under the rule of law of the US government hence they were treated like traitors to the nation, because they were. Whether they tried to disguise the issue as one of states rights at the end of the day it was all about slavery and the confederates wanted to create a tyrannical state that enslaved half the population through force (armed white civilians).
France never supplied the Confederacy with any weapons. Britain supplied some rifles and bought cotton from the Confederates but didn't do much to hold them up with armaments. Supply problems in the confederacy meant that many confederate soldiers supplied their own weapons and uniform. Something that wouldn't have happened if the civilian population wasn't armed.
So far in American history we have only seen armed civilians used to install a tyrannical government.
wrong the confederate states DID secede from the union, they ratified their articles of secession. and while YOU may not recognize that fact, history does. as for france, they in fact did help supply the south with arms, as well as financial support, at least what they could, but they also, along with britain, supplied the north as well. france was hurt the by the blockade of southern ports, as their clothing industry depended on cotton imports from the south.
wrong the confederate states DID secede from the union, they ratified their articles of secession. and while YOU may not recognize that fact, history does. as for france, they in fact did help supply the south with arms, as well as financial support, at least what they could, but they also, along with britain, supplied the north as well. france was hurt the by the blockade of southern ports, as their clothing industry depended on cotton imports from the south.
Whats your point. That a southern civilian gun owner who decided to betray his country in an effort to create a tyrannical slave state is somehow morally exempt from condemnation.
Whats your point. That a southern civilian gun owner who decided to betray his country in an effort to create a tyrannical slave state is somehow morally exempt from condemnation.
By your logic, the people who fought in the American Revolution betrayed their country (England) in an effort to create a tyrannical slave state.
(Pro tip: The Civil War wasn't fought over slavery...)
By your logic, the people who fought in the American Revolution betrayed their country (England) in an effort to create a tyrannical slave state.
(Pro tip: The Civil War wasn't fought over slavery...)
To the British yes the colonist during the American Revolution were traitors. You think if the British won they wouldn't have hung all the founding fathers as traitors to the crown? Lucky for us they lost.
Also the American revolution was not fought over the creation of a slave state. Slavery had little to do with the Revolution which is why African Americans fought for both sides during the conflict.
Our Civil War was 100% about slavery. In the 1860 presidential election Abraham Lincoln vowed to ban slavery and once he won. Once it because apparent he was going to be president, seven slave states declared secession. Our Civil War was just about Slavery and nothing else.
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