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Old 03-16-2018, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Looks like we've found the target audience for National Geographic's new editor.
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I once spent a couple of days perusing through the early years of the National Geographic.

For sure, there was a lot of stuff about noble white men saving the savages from themselves in them. White superiority went hand in hand with their exploration for a very long time. Most explorers were racists, at least in their regards to what comprised their notions of a civilized society when encountering one that was strange to them.
Did Marco Polo consider China savage and uncivilized when he first encountered it? No, he did not.
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But I think that most of it was simply the times; racist attitudes were very common throughout the 'civilized world' then, and those attitudes still exist today.
... "civilized world" in quotes as if you don't believe there even is such a thing as civilization that differs from the absence of it.
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At least the Geographic recognizes its problem and is doing something constructive about it. I think its healthy for the organization
Post modernism is constructive in the sense that termites are constructive.
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Old 03-16-2018, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Have you ever seen an old Natl Geographic magazine?!! As a teenager in the 1970s, I “read” some older Natl Geographics from the 1950s- 1960s at my Jr High library. It’s not ONLY that they depicted naked Bush people as primitive. I remember one where there was a lustful-looking white safari guy with bare-breasted black women dancing around him. It was funny to me at the time, but sickening to me now.
I would like to see the so-called racist pics. I simply can't recall any. Never read it all that much though.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:56 AM
 
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For many decades National Geographic, with its first rate photographers and journalists, educated Americans, and awed them, revealing just how big was the world and how diverse the humanity it contained. Now its new editor wants to apologize for that:

The whole current issue is devoted to various race related PC-isms and grievances, including this feature which claims "There's no scientific basis for race - it's a made up label" and then, amusingly, goes on to provide a scientific explanation of how the current races developed through geographic isolation, substituting the word "populations" for "races".
It was in NG that I first saw naked women. They were Africans. The boys in the neighborhood used to look at them. NG used to do stories about people in Africa. I don't remember if I could read yet, but I remember the pictures! This was in the 1950's. Many of the women had what looked liked dinner plates sewn into their lips or bowing balls into their ear lobes. But what got my attention was a little bit lower.
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Old 03-16-2018, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Looks like we've found the target audience for National Geographic's new editor.

Did Marco Polo consider China savage and uncivilized when he first encountered it? No, he did not.

... "civilized world" in quotes as if you don't believe there even is such a thing as civilization that differs from the absence of it.
Post modernism is constructive in the sense that termites are constructive.
There is a large element of our society that want to fall all over themselves talking about how bad white men were in the past, and still are! It is total white guilt, virtue signaling, and it is MISGUIDED, and destructive. White men advanced civilization, and culture for centuries, now, all of a sudden they were all racists, and a pariah. What drivel.
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Old 03-16-2018, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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If they want to apologize for how they portrayed black Americans that's one thing, but bush people are bush people. Of course you portray them as being primitive, because that what they are. I would expect that if they did a story about bush people today they would also portray them as being primitive, and if they didn't, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.
If you feel that way, then ...

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If they want to apologize for how they portrayed black Americans that's one thing, but redneck people are redneck people. Of course you portray them as being primitive, because that what they are. I would expect that if they did a story about redneck people today they would also portray them as being primitive, and if they didn't, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.
Fixed it for you.
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Old 03-16-2018, 07:30 AM
 
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It was in NG that I first saw naked women. They were Africans. The boys in the neighborhood used to look at them. NG used to do stories about people in Africa. I don't remember if I could read yet, but I remember the pictures! This was in the 1950's. Many of the women had what looked liked dinner plates sewn into their lips or bowing balls into their ear lobes. But what got my attention was a little bit lower.


Where is Ralph Malph when you need him?
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Old 03-16-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Have you ever seen an old Natl Geographic magazine?!! As a teenager in the 1970s, I “read” some older Natl Geographics from the 1950s- 1960s at my Jr High library. It’s not ONLY that they depicted naked Bush people as primitive. I remember one where there was a lustful-looking white safari guy with bare-breasted black women dancing around him. It was funny to me at the time, but sickening to me now.
There were people back in the '70s who were scandalized by old pictures in National Geographic of topless native women encountered by white men in far away countries. Then, such people were considered uptight, prude, and possibly racist - "church lady" types. Now, they're considered progressive!
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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I read the full article.

" Let’s confront today’s shameful use of racism as a political strategy and prove we are better than this."

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/m...acism-history/

I think many posting here are outraged at the thought that people with non-white skin are just as, or more, peace loving, and intelligent as they claim that they are.
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Old 03-16-2018, 05:41 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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NG is owned by Rupert Murdoch. If he's PC I'm Mother Goose.
That's what I was thinking. What up Rupert???
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:21 PM
 
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Have you ever seen an old Natl Geographic magazine?!! As a teenager in the 1970s, I “read” some older Natl Geographics from the 1950s- 1960s at my Jr High library. It’s not ONLY that they depicted naked Bush people as primitive. I remember one where there was a lustful-looking white safari guy with bare-breasted black women dancing around him. It was funny to me at the time, but sickening to me now.
The San people are/were primitive hunter-gathers. So being presented facts is sickening to you now? Do you think the photo was completely staged for some nefarious purposes? The safari team told the native women to take their tops of and dance? Not likely.
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