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Old 03-14-2018, 06:36 AM
 
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Well, many of those cities in Texas are hubs in the drug trade, its where they get sorted out and shipped off to the rest the country, the logistics in place to keep all this flowing are just as complex as it is for a legal product/ importing.

In order for the drug war to keep going, they need to ensure ALOT of drugs are consistently reaching their destination, once in the US. If they suddenly cracked down on TX, that would have devastating effects on NY, OH, MI, and all the other states, (their efforts to 'fight' the drug war).

Basically if drugs stop coming in, no more drug war, no more cash and property seizures, (along with the huge annual budgets to wage the war).
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Old 03-14-2018, 06:52 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Illegals traipse around huge portions of Texas completely unmolested and with no real worries about immigration issues. There’s nothing vigorous or aggressive about immigration enforcement in Texas.

I was working in Texas late last year for two weeks ....in Seguin, Corsicana and McAllen, and the illegals are running around so thick in Texas that I had to laugh. I live in Arizona I don’t see that kind of impunity, and yet, the nation acts like we’re Ground Zero for the illegal immigration invasion.

They’re all over Texas’ large cities, the Permian Basin, the Pineywoods, and the North Plains area over into Arkansas. The Panhandle is chock full of illegal immigrant labor. Especially in the meatpacking areas.

And South Texas running over towards Laredo, and points west like Del Rio and Eagle Pass? Pfffft...half the Hispanics you bump into over there can’t speak a lick of English.
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WOW, 2 WHOLE weeks in 3 areas and you KNOW ALL of what is going on in a state the size of Texas.

Talk about illusions of self grandeur.

"and the illegals are running around so thick in Texas that I had to laugh. "

How did you KNOW they were illegal?

Did you ask each and every one of them?

It looks like you know NOTHING about DPS.

"DPS is South Texas' pioneer law enforcement conduit into the deportation pipeline for noncriminals. The agency dominates the flow running from local cops (including city police, sheriff's deputies, constables, and troopers) to the federal Border Patrol and ICE. DPS set itself up for this role beginning in 2005,"

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n 2009 Steve McCraw, a retired FBI agent and Governor Perry's homeland security adviser, was appointed DPS director. He soon turned DPS into a highly militarized police force, obsessed with crime on the border"

"In the first 100 days after Trump took office, according to ICE, arrests of undocumented immigrants were up 38% from the same period a year earlier. The biggest jump involved people with no criminal record. Their arrest rate rose 156%. From the end of January to the end of April, ICE arrested almost 11,000 people whose only mark on their record was an immigration violation (those are administrative matters, not crimes). The noncriminals constituted a quarter of all immigrants detained. That percentage was three times higher than the rate of immigrants detained during the last year of the Obama administration – 8% – who had no criminal records."

https://www.austinchronicle.com/news...tion-pipeline/

I think you have the Obama and the Trump admins mixed up!

I agree with Desertd on this. Rick Perry talked a good game in photo ops, but the reality and actions said differently. He kept Bush's policies of open borders, for his rich buddies to undercut competition and bank off exploited labor.

Illegals are in masses in the big cities.
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:06 AM
 
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You don’t need sanctuary cities in Texas. It’s a sanctuary state.
Just because illegals are here does not make it a sanctuary state.

We aren't protecting anyone from the authorities. That's what makes a sanctuary entity.

Sure - we could just starting asking for papers and ID, right? How would that go?
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:37 AM
 
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I was never so happy as when I left San Antonio. A city infested with and catering to illegals.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:24 PM
 
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Just because illegals are here does not make it a sanctuary state.

We aren't protecting anyone from the authorities. That's what makes a sanctuary entity.

Sure - we could just starting asking for papers and ID, right? How would that go?

Depends on the circumstances. Anytime someone is brought into custody to the police department for a suspected infraction of the law they are always asked for ID no matter who they are. If found to be illegally in our country and it's not reported to the Feds that indeed makes them a sanctuary city. If this is done state wide then it's a sanctuary state.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:38 PM
 
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Depends on the circumstances. Anytime someone is brought into custody to the police department for a suspected infraction of the law they are always asked for ID no matter who they are. If found to be illegally in our country and it's not reported to the Feds that indeed makes them a sanctuary city. If this is done state wide then it's a sanctuary state.
They can't determine immigration status without going through the Feds so the Feds are always involved.
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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I agree with Desertd on this. Rick Perry talked a good game in photo ops, but the reality and actions said differently. He kept Bush's policies of open borders, for his rich buddies to undercut competition and bank off exploited labor.

Illegals are in masses in the big cities.
They know I’m right. That’s why he responded with such vitriol.

I work out in Texas all the time. I know what I’m seeing. I know how to spot illegals pretty well. I’ll get it right 75% of the time. I’ve lived on the border too long NOT to know.
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:55 PM
 
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Just because illegals are here does not make it a sanctuary state.

We aren't protecting anyone from the authorities. That's what makes a sanctuary entity.

Sure - we could just starting asking for papers and ID, right? How would that go?
Texas is effectively a sanctuary state. Sorry. It is what it is.
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Old 03-15-2018, 05:14 AM
 
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I agree with Desertd on this. Rick Perry talked a good game in photo ops, but the reality and actions said differently. He kept Bush's policies of open borders, for his rich buddies to undercut competition and bank off exploited labor.

Illegals are in masses in the big cities.
"Rick Perry talked a good game"

I see you did NOT read the article.

"DPS is South Texas' pioneer law enforcement conduit into the deportation pipeline for noncriminals. The agency dominates the flow running from local cops (including city police, sheriff's deputies, constables, and troopers) to the federal Border Patrol and ICE. DPS set itself up for this role beginning in 2005, when Gov. Rick Perry turned Texas communities near the Rio Grande into political footballs by declaring border security a state priority. Perry began refashioning the image of the DPS then, from Lone Star traffic policing to homeland security. In 2009 Steve McCraw, a retired FBI agent and Governor Perry's homeland security adviser, was appointed DPS director. He soon turned DPS into a highly militarized police force, obsessed with crime on the border and dedicating vast funds to interdict drugs along the international line. Even media coverage of the agency's vocabulary morphed. "Traffic stop" and "DUI" were eclipsed by references to DPS border operations like "surges" and "Ranger Recon missions." Money has surged, too. From 2008 to the end of this year, DPS will have received $1.6 billion to secure the border. The two-year budget for 2018-19 has been approved at $694 million."
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