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Old 04-04-2018, 07:56 AM
 
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As to the level of ammo he had, keep in mind that many people buy large amounts of ammo for law abiding reasons.

1600 rounds is just a typical day with a few buddies at the range with a few different firearms.
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Old 04-04-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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Giving lie to the assertion that you cannot buy a gun online.
I am not sure what you mean by this unless you are saying people lie about being able to buy guns online.

Few should make such an assertion, because you can buy entire guns online, not just parts to create/modify them.
Now there are laws/restrictions, but I am not sure why someone would think in this internet age, you should not be able to do so, as long as you are within the law.
The website GunBroker has ebay style auctions going 24/7/365 to buy guns online.

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All I know is what I read in the stories. Apparently he thought he could. This is why all mailorder sales of firearms components neds to come to an abrupt halt.
Herein lies the problem, with people like you wanting to take away law abiding citizens abilities just because there is an occasional nut who misuses something.
If a gun owner wants or needs a part or accessory for their firearm, why shouldn't he or she be able to purchase it online?



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Old 04-04-2018, 03:36 PM
 
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If you see something say something.
Yes that's the first thing they always say after a tragedy but it isn't the ONLY strategy we should use.
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Old 04-04-2018, 03:42 PM
 
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Correct. I have no intention of chasing every rabbit.

Since you have nothing to share, there is nothing else to talk about. I shared my proposal, and all you have is "no ,no, no, no" to everything. That attitude will become costly when Dems are back in power, because if nothing is done, they will do something which will leave a lot of people very unhappy, including myself.

Give it a rest, as you want to make not only un-constitutional proposals, but are even unwilling to see the potential reasons why it should never come to pass. At minimum if there are requirements to something, it is not a right, it is a privilege, correct?

Also, one needs to look no further than cities that issue permits to carry, on a "need basis". Well if that city decides no one needs one, guess how many will actually get a permit?
That is right, only the ones that grease people or that are politically connected.

More importantly, allowing for criteria protocols to be met just to own a firearm will lead to abuses by those who want to limit/restrict private gun ownership.
If you cannot see that, then you are not the gun rights proponent you claim to be.


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Old 04-04-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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There's your loophole. Find a willing "private seller", pick something out fomr the two hundred or so "personal arms" he has in his house, flash your cash, and drive away with whatever you want.
But again, that is a violation of the law.
So what additional laws are going to prevent any crime if the person is intent on committing said crime. Obviously laws are created as deterrents, with potential penalties if they are violated. Thus law abiding people stay within those laws. But the criminals obviously do not.
To make a straw purchase and resell that weapon to a person prohibited from buying said weapon, is a felony.


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Old 04-04-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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He could purchase the parts legally in any store. I've been telling you all about this for years. This blows holes in any back ground check.
You must have the receiver of ANY firearm (the part that has the serial number) go through an FFL, with background check, and Federal Form 4473. So you may be able to buy some of the parts, but not the most critical one that makes it functional. He would have had to ILLEGALLY fabricate the receiver, and that will get you jail time as it is a Felony.
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Old 04-04-2018, 04:14 PM
 
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You'd be hard pressed to find an AR in specifically .223.
What makes you think that the thousands of AR's sold before the 5.56 came along have just disappeared?


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Old 04-04-2018, 04:40 PM
 
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It's a lower, not a barrel, not a bcg. ARs are lower pressure to begin with.
If only I'd thought to specify "receiver".
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:24 PM
 
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You must have the receiver of ANY firearm (the part that has the serial number) go through an FFL, with background check, and Federal Form 4473. So you may be able to buy some of the parts, but not the most critical one that makes it functional. He would have had to ILLEGALLY fabricate the receiver, and that will get you jail time as it is a Felony.
Not true! From the BATFE site: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does...m-personal-use
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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Yes, indeed. Why was he able to purchase sufficient parts online to build an operational firearm? The sale of firearms components online needs to come to an end.
I agree with that.
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