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Old 04-13-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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Scooter Libby was convicted of lying and obstruction of justice. He seems to be Trump's kind of person.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:31 AM
 
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libby was a fall guy, he did nothing wrong. in fact judith miller realized that after she had testified about the issue. in point of fact, these are all process crimes, low hanging fruit that prosecutors use to try and get the higher ups. they are BS convictions. but consider some of the people that clinton and obama have pardoned, and check out the crimes of these people, and then wonder why you are upset about trump pardoning arpiao and libby;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Bill_Clinton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Barack_Obama
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It appears Trump is ready to pardon Flynn, Manafort and all the rest because he's reportedly starting with a pardon for Scooter Libby, who was charged with obstruction of justice.

Trump to pardon ex-Cheney staffer convicted of leaking CIA agent's identity: report

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ing-cia-agents

I cannot believe the GOP used to consider themselves the "law and order" party. They sound completely criminal.




Well, they've pretty much made a mockery of the "family values" and "law and order" BS.
, WHERE will they go next?
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:09 AM
 
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libby was a fall guy, he did nothing wrong. in fact judith miller realized that after she had testified about the issue. in point of fact, these are all process crimes, low hanging fruit that prosecutors use to try and get the higher ups. they are BS convictions. but consider some of the people that clinton and obama have pardoned, and check out the crimes of these people, and then wonder why you are upset about trump pardoning arpiao and libby;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Bill_Clinton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Barack_Obama
Judith Miller doesn’t know what the hell she’s talking about. She was just hoping to be Joan of Arc.

Fact: Libby lied his ass off. SEVERAL sources told the FBI that they got Plame’s name and position DIRECTLY from Libby AFTER Libby told investigators that he never gave her up to anybody. But then, once the FBI gave him the business about the journalists who snitched him out, he recovered from amnesia all of a sudden.

Federal judges don’t toss 30 months in prison at powerful people for nothing! His own employer, Dubya, refused to pardon him. So don’t sit here with this revisionist crap and try to pass it off to the rest of us.

That said, I thought Dubya should’ve pardoned him, but obviously Bush didn’t think so. Trump has no business pardoning the guy, but he wants brownie points from Cheney and the hard right neocons.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:28 AM
 
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Default Trump pardons Scooter Libby.

From the wtf files, Trump does what even dubya didn’t do, pardon Scooter. Maybe Trump likes to ride scooters with his pee shooter.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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Good for Scooter. Obama pardoned over 1950 Felons which is more than the last 11 Presidents combined.

Trump still has over 1940 to go to even come close to Obama's record.

Obama loved him some Felons.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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Good for Scooter. Obama pardoned over 1950 Felons which is more than the last 11 Presidents combined.

Trump still has over 1940 to go to even come close to Obama's record.

Obama loved him some Felons.
Pardons are for felons. Who are you supposed to pardon if not criminals?

Why is the presidency imbued with pardon powers if a president isn’t supposed to use them?

Obama loved felons? Good...now you can throw Trump in that boat.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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Default Trump Pardons Scooter Libby - Why?

Why? Is this some sort of Deep State thing again, or what? What possible reason would Trump have for pardoning Libby?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/polit...bby/index.html

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Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump on Friday pardoned former Dick Cheney chief of staff Scooter Libby, the White House said.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:55 AM
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Diversion. Desperation.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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He is trying to curry favor with the neocons. He is not popular with them, and this is his attempt at reconciliation. He wants to have, at a minimum, Heartless Dick in his corner.
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