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Perhaps you failed to notice it wasn't anyone from your so called "anti-Iraq crowd" that made the statement:
"The more soldiers that die, the more relevant our invasion was.. "
Sounds more like it's you and your kind who welcome more deaths under the inane delusion that it will somehow give relevance and credibility to your misguided hatreds and fear mongering.
I'll note that "my kind" has sit here here with your hatred for "my kind".
"my kind" also has to deal with your fear mongering for.. "my kind".
I'm glad you can accuse others of making ilrelevant attacks and lies while you sit here and make up lies (like "welcoming more deaths")while making attacks youreself.. ahh yes.. "my kind"...
Perhaps you failed to notice it wasn't anyone from your so called "anti-Iraq crowd" that made the statement:
"The more soldiers that die, the more relevant our invasion was.. "
Sounds more like it's you and your kind who welcome more deaths under the inane delusion that it will somehow give relevance and credibility to your misguided hatreds and fear mongering.
Okay, Burdell. Put up or shut up time. What's your solution? Yank 'em all out and turn tail? Helicopter on the embassy rooftop? Kick off the last few refugees and then cut off all aid, and spend the rest of your life hating America?
You and your side are so infected with hatred for the administration that it has made you into vindictive jackals, pouncing on each new report of American deaths as somehow proving your point that Iraq is a dangerous place that we should run away from.
The grief that the families of our soldiers feel is real. It is not the product of outrage and self-loathing like you on the left. The only amelioration for them is the confidence that their sons and daughters died honorably in service to their country. Each time you mock that service, each time you mendaciously point to isolated incidents like Abu Ghraib as characteristic of the American military, each time you take the enemy's side and clamor for our capitulation to evil, you strike at the grief of these families and the faith they have in our country.
Bush and Cheney will be gone from the scene in a matter of months, but the mission our fighting men and women pursue will continue into the future. Must they be opposed not only by the cowardly murderers who hide in the shadows and use women and children as human shields, but also by your vindictive need to take vengeance on your political enemies here at home?
Soon this war will become McCain's war. Or Hillary's. Or Obama's. When they come to the realization that this is not a game and needs to be fought out to the end, how will you then turn the situation into hatred for them, hatred springing from your own impatience and lack of support for our forces?
How about it? Fill us in with your strategic plan.
Okay, Burdell. Put up or shut up time. What's your solution? Yank 'em all out and turn tail? Helicopter on the embassy rooftop? Kick off the last few refugees and then cut off all aid, and spend the rest of your life hating America?
You and your side are so infected with hatred for the administration that it has made you into vindictive jackals, pouncing on each new report of American deaths as somehow proving your point that Iraq is a dangerous place that we should run away from.
The grief that the families of our soldiers feel is real. It is not the product of outrage and self-loathing like you on the left. The only amelioration for them is the confidence that their sons and daughters died honorably in service to their country. Each time you mock that service, each time you mendaciously point to isolated incidents like Abu Ghraib as characteristic of the American military, each time you take the enemy's side and clamor for our capitulation to evil, you strike at the grief of these families and the faith they have in our country.
Bush and Cheney will be gone from the scene in a matter of months, but the mission our fighting men and women pursue will continue into the future. Must they be opposed not only by the cowardly murderers who hide in the shadows and use women and children as human shields, but also by your vindictive need to take vengeance on your political enemies here at home?
Soon this war will become McCain's war. Or Hillary's. Or Obama's. When they come to the realization that this is not a game and needs to be fought out to the end, how will you then turn the situation into hatred for them, hatred springing from your own impatience and lack of support for our forces?
How about it? Fill us in with your strategic plan.
How is it "turning tail" when we have no compelling reason to be there? What is there to "win"? America for Americans. Leave the rest of the world to collapse on its own, without our interference.
I have a problem ANY TIME our government uses the military for POLITICAL purposes.
How is it "turning tail" when we have no compelling reason to be there?
"Okay, Al Qaeda. We're leaving. You may kill at will, since we have no compelling reason to be here any longer. Ta-ta." Go ahead. YOU tell the world that. But keep in mind that the word includes people who do not watch PBS or read The Nation.
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What is there to "win"? America for Americans. Leave the rest of the world to collapse on its own, without our interference.
Right. Because we are not involved with the rest of the world -- culturally, politically, or economically. I forgot.
Since when?
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I have a problem ANY TIME our government uses the military for POLITICAL purposes.
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I'll note that "my kind" has sit here here with your hatred for "my kind".
"my kind" also has to deal with your fear mongering for.. "my kind".
Don't flatter yourself, hatred requires far more energy than I'd be willing to expend on you.
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I'm glad you can accuse others of making ilrelevant attacks and lies while you sit here and make up lies (like "welcoming more deaths")while making attacks youreself.. ahh yes.. "my kind"...
Accuse? No, I'm not accusing, I'm saying flat out as FACT that claiming people who oppose the Iraq war welcome American deaths are lying pissants who can't defend their views sensibly and resort to lying crap. YOU are the one who's continually made comments about what you think you've read rather than what's been written. If you want to see who's making up lies find a MIRROR.
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Okay, Burdell. Put up or shut up time. What's your solution? Yank 'em all out and turn tail? Helicopter on the embassy rooftop? Kick off the last few refugees and then cut off all aid, and spend the rest of your life hating America?
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WHAT does what you quoted have to do with a SOLUTION to ANYTHING?
Put up or shut up? Let the Uptighty-Righty Wackos who attempt to claim anyone opposing the Iraq war welcomes the deaths of Americans PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
LET THOSE WACKOS DOCUMENT THEIR ASININE CLAIMS OR SHUT UP!
WHAT's YOUR solution? Kill MORE Americans to mystically make the war more "relevant"?
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Okay, Burdell. Put up or shut up time. What's your solution? Yank 'em all out and turn tail? Helicopter on the embassy rooftop? Kick off the last few refugees and then cut off all aid, and spend the rest of your life hating America?
How about it? Fill us in with your strategic plan.
What's YOURS?
I never cliamed to have one in this thread, did I? But I know you don't have to know how to cook to know you've been served a bad meal. n And if you'd been paying attention you'd see what I've taken exception to is the concept of more soldiers dying making the war "more re;evant" and some Uptighty-Righty Wacko accusation that anyone oipposing the war welcomes more American deaths.
The TOS prevent me from properly labeling that accusation but let me describe it as NOTHING BUT what comes out the end of a male bovine farthest from its nose.
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If you were in charge - what exactly, and how, would you do?
I wouldn't have gone into Iraq in the first place when 9/11 made other targets higher priority. And since we allegedly prevailed almost 5 full years ago I would be given the Iraqis notice that it was time to fight for themselves or the chips fall where they fall. I'm interested in America, screw Iraq.
And you're missing the point.
I take exception to comments made that more American deaths make the war more relevant.
And I REALLY take exception to baseless, mindless, inane, senseless, asinine, BS accusations that anyone opposed to the war welcomes more American deaths.
OK, let's bring this down a notch or three on the heat scale.
I'm close to closing this one out.
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