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Old 05-03-2018, 01:46 PM
 
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First, wrong forum.

Second, nobody considers the National Review to be anything other than far-right bias. Take it for what it is intended to be.
No, it's not far-right. It is more center-right. Breitbart and Infowars are far right.

The National Review is basically the Washington Post for conservatives. Unlike Breitbart and Infowars, the articles are usually very well written, and always backed by source data and logical discourse.
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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Hezbollah is an independent group that has been fighting Israeli aggression for years since they invaded Lebanon.

Iran supports them, they do not control them.
Right. And the Ayatollah Khomeini was an Episcopalian bishop from Piscataway.
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Right. And the Ayatollah Khomeini was an Episcopalian bishop from Piscataway.
Iran is the only defending themselves.

Houthis rebels. Hezbollah, etc. are the good guys fighting against corrupt Saudi regimes and Wahhabist terrorists like ISIS, Al Qaeda, the Taliban.
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:03 PM
 
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Iran has united front against them because they are against the US hegemony in the region while the Saudis and Israel are for it.

Iran is only defending themselves through these proxy wars.
Wait, what? Iran does not have a united front against them. Iran stands (in the Middle East) with Syria, perhaps Qatar, and I don't know of who else... Iran is not defending themselves by supplying rebels in countries that don't even border them.

Saudi Arabia has better relations with Egypt, Lebanon, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Turkey, and Israel.

After being caught supplying ISIS, Qatar relations have deteriorated with every Middle Eastern country, except Iran, who last year regained full diplomatic relations with Qatar. I think people should ask themselves, why would this happen?

Israel only has official diplomatic relations with Jordan and Egypt, and yet here they are working with Saudi Arabia, a country that is almost as hostile to them as Iran.

Turkish-Iranian relations are also bad, except that they have a common enemy in the Kurds.

Russia has good relations with both countries, but they are allied with Iran in Syria. Though they supply both countries with arms.

Jordan tries to remain neutral and is the actual country that is almost pacifistic. They have poor relations with Syria, but who doesn't...

Iran and Saudi Arabia: Friends and foes in the region - BBC News

No major country in the Middle East has clean hands and none of them are playing a defensive game. They are all trying to support rebels and overthrow various governments to move influence in their direction.
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Wait, what? Iran does not have a united front against them. Iran stands (in the Middle East) with Syria, perhaps Qatar, and I don't know of who else... Iran is not defending themselves by supplying rebels in countries that don't even border them.

Saudi Arabia has better relations with Egypt, Lebanon, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Turkey, and Israel.

After being caught supplying ISIS, Qatar relations have deteriorated with every Middle Eastern country, except Iran, who last year regained full diplomatic relations with Qatar. I think people should ask themselves, why would this happen?

Israel only has official diplomatic relations with Jordan and Egypt, and yet here they are working with Saudi Arabia, a country that is almost as hostile to them as Iran.

Turkish-Iranian relations are also bad, except that they have a common enemy in the Kurds.

Russia has good relations with both countries, but they are allied with Iran in Syria. Though they supply both countries with arms.

Jordan tries to remain neutral and is the actual country that is almost pacifistic. They have poor relations with Syria, but who doesn't...

Iran and Saudi Arabia: Friends and foes in the region - BBC News

No major country in the Middle East has clean hands and none of them are playing a defensive game. They are all trying to support rebels and overthrow various governments to move influence in their direction.
The Saudis don’t like Qatar because they’re working with Iran, the worst thing you can do.

Iran is a poor country that is sanctioned and surrounded militarily. It has no flashy buildings like the Arab state and its people only want people. Hezbollah and the Houthis are not terrorists like I’ve already stated. Furthermore Iraq and Syria aren’t real countries so any relationship Iran has with them is illusionary.

Can you guys just leave my people alone?
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Old 05-03-2018, 05:18 PM
 
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The Saudis don’t like Qatar because they’re working with Iran, the worst thing you can do.

Iran is a poor country that is sanctioned and surrounded militarily. It has no flashy buildings like the Arab state and its people only want people. Hezbollah and the Houthis are not terrorists like I’ve already stated. Furthermore Iraq and Syria aren’t real countries so any relationship Iran has with them is illusionary.

Can you guys just leave my people alone?
Iran is a bully. The stupid thing is, they aren’t very strong and can’t stand up for themselves and then act like they are a victim.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/en.yabi...ran-saudi.html
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Old 05-03-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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First Netanyahu is planning on lying again and now we have this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nat...stability/amp/

I’ve never read a more BS article in my life filled with lies and delusions. These psychos need to be stopped.
Calm down and start over.
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Old 05-03-2018, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Iran is a bully. The stupid thing is, they aren’t very strong and can’t stand up for themselves and then act like they are a victim.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/en.yabi...ran-saudi.html
They are surrounded and abused, they are the victim.
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:32 PM
 
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They are surrounded and abused, they are the victim.
They can’t arm rebel’s in dozens of countries and then act like the victim when the governments of those countries get angry. That’s nonsense. The victims are the Iranian people who get screwed over by their governments unrealistic ambitions.
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:59 PM
 
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They can’t arm rebel’s in dozens of countries and then act like the victim when the governments of those countries get angry. That’s nonsense. The victims are the Iranian people who get screwed over by their governments unrealistic ambitions.
Thank You. The people at stake often get lost in this debate. I feel bad for Iran, they should be a rich developed westernized country. Unfortunately the British and Islamic law happened. Hopefully people start thinking like you. The Iranian government is the true bully of the middle east.
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