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View Poll Results: Would Congress Approve FULL Border Wall Funding if Trump closed the government and stood firm?
Yes, eventually they would yield to Trump 23 25.00%
No, the government could be closed for months but they would not yield 69 75.00%
Voters: 92. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-01-2018, 05:18 PM
 
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Whatever happened with Mexico is going to pay for this Wall?

 
Old 05-01-2018, 05:50 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
That probably is at the base of why you don't grasp the illegal immigrant issue.

It's corporate welfare.

The right people benefit from illegal immigration. Corporate America loves having millions of sub-minimum wage workers who won't unionize and don't complain about no employer sponsored health care plans. They just live in subsidized housing and take advantage of hospital emergency rooms. All of that paid for by the tax paying public. Helps to boost the bottom line and fatten the fat cats.

Yep...

It's corporate welfare.

And that's why it won't be addressed.

Another who understands what's happening
 
Old 05-01-2018, 05:54 PM
 
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Because we aren't a Dictatorship YET. That is why.
Go read up on what's required to build this wall. And the impediments. And the lawsuits. There was a lot of discrimination in condemning and getting the land through eminent domain. The lawsuits from the Bush administration are still pending. What do you think will happen if they really get serious? Have they done the surveys yet? How long do you think that will take?

It's simple, but it's not easy.
 
Old 05-01-2018, 05:54 PM
 
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Let the moron shut down the government. Then, lets see how long it takes to EVER have a Republican in the WH again.
 
Old 05-01-2018, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Another who understands what's happening
Some "American" companies actually pay human traffickers to bring illegals in to work for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_..._United_States

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/22/70244...-hotel-workers

https://www.reuters.com/investigates...rkers-brokers/

As long as the "right people" benefit from illegal immigration, nothing substantive will be done about it.

Corporate interests own America.

 
Old 05-01-2018, 07:40 PM
 
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Let the moron shut down the government. Then, lets see how long it takes to EVER have a Republican in the WH again.
Agreed, bring it on, the closer to the midterm elections, the better!
 
Old 05-01-2018, 08:25 PM
 
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I have a better idea!

Trump should just demand his border wall, as you say - and then announce that since it is so central to his campaign pledge, he will resign unless Congress unconditionally allocates the funds by Memorial Day.

 
Old 05-01-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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Whatever happened with Mexico is going to pay for this Wall?

It's well needed no matter who pays for it and is cost effective.


https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf
 
Old 05-02-2018, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Alot can happen between now and whenever. Would not surprize me on oct 1 to see govt just go into a perpetual CR. Or contunuing resolution - this wall will never happen in our lifetime.
 
Old 05-02-2018, 06:28 AM
 
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Agreed, bring it on, the closer to the midterm elections, the better!
Yup but my point is "shutting down the goverment" and closing the country which is what he said ...are two different things and he doesn't have the power to close the country down.
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