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Old 05-18-2018, 03:27 PM
 
Location: My House
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You seriously believe that if someone steals my gun, my car, etc., and kills someone with it, then I'm responsible? Good lord......
Depends... do you keep these items reasonably secured?

If you leave your gun loaded on the front porch, I might be asking why you're not being charged with aiding and abetting, at the very least.

Did someone break into your home and steal your guns from a safe?

Okay... you were doing your best to secure them.

With kids who live in the home, are the guns and ammo secured where the child has no access to them? As in, in a safe where they don't know the combination, etc?

If so, you're good. If your kid is a safecracker and you did not know it, you cannot help that. If you leave your guns in your nightstand and your bullets on the dresser? Yes... you should be charged.
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Old 05-18-2018, 03:28 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Whataboutery at its finest. Keep posting more excuses....
 
Old 05-18-2018, 03:28 PM
 
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There is no solution to this problem in the United States. Even if they were banned completely, there are enough guns here and south of the border to feed a black market for the next 100 years.

The ONLY thing we can do is work on prevention. That means metal detectors in all schools! I don’t care how much it costs. There are several useless and highly paid administrators in every school district. Get rid of two or three and use that money for security.
 
Old 05-18-2018, 03:28 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Laws can be changed.
True. Can we have concurrent new lease laws so that renters cannot lease anything to Muslims (including housing which can be used to construct pipe bombs, etc. out of sight) that can possibly be used as a weapon because we already know know Muslims commit mass murder jihads in the US? Or do you have a problem with that?
 
Old 05-18-2018, 03:28 PM
 
Location: PSL
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So what is wrong with our society here that isn't a problem in Europe or Australia where mass shootings are very rare? Aside from the number of guns we have floating around.
I know their videogames are censored...

Their cultures are vastly different than ours...
Take for example my brother in law. He's from Poland.
Women in Poland stay home to raise kids men work. Kids aren't raised by videogames fast food junk food electronics. Church is a big thing there...
So much so, that the idea of Muslim refugees migrating there is more controversial and opposed than illegal immigrants here in the states. Think we are bad/oppressive/racist? Poland says hold our beer.
Think white kids at a college with tiki torches is shocking? Ever see entire towns do the same marching with flags and torches?

Their culture, their religious beliefs, etc are far different than that of the UK or Holland Or Germany etc etc.

If you think America is racist/prejudiced... go talk to someone from Poland. They hate Germans, they hate Russians even more.

Their values are more conservative and traditional in the sense of divorce isn't preached it's sort your problems out like adults and/or stay miserable forever.
Family is a big thing there too. Where we rush granny and gramps to the long term care facility, they move theirs in with them, and they are to be respected in a God like manner.
At least that's how my brother in law tells it. He ever used foul language in front of his grand parents, the beating he received from the grandfather never mind the one that followed from his father, are etched in his memory LOL.

I'm no expert on Polish culture and values. But having met my brother in laws parents and some of his extended family who came for vacation, they are more old school than we are socially.
 
Old 05-18-2018, 03:29 PM
 
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“Our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims of this blah, blah, blah...”

Okay. Got that outta the way.
 
Old 05-18-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: My House
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Some of these disturbed young adults feed off the media and decide it's a great idea for them to do it too--(shoot a large amount of people in a public place) for some unresolved issue they are living and their idea is to shoot the innocent and that gets them instant, memorable notoriety.
Well, you and I agree. Wonders abound.

That said, if they didn't have easy access to a gun, it would be a lot harder to gain that instant notoriety.

Why were his father's guns so easy for him to access?
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Old 05-18-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Originally Posted by katygirl68 View Post
There is no solution to this problem in the United States. Even if they were banned completely, there are enough guns here and south of the border to feed a black market for the next 100 years.

The ONLY thing we can do is work on prevention. That means metal detectors in all schools! I don’t care how much it costs. There are several useless and highly paid administrators in every school district. Get rid of two or three and use that money for security.
You know we send guns to Mexico, not the other way round.
 
Old 05-18-2018, 03:30 PM
 
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What's the standard of proof in such an assertion? Because the renter is Islamic? So mass murder jihad should be expected behavior from him? Or what?
There are a number of causes of action based on negligence, willful conduct, negligent entrustment, and employee misfeasance.


The Graves Act will not protect the leasing company.
 
Old 05-18-2018, 03:30 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yeah! And no teenage boys either. We already know they shoot up schools!
Interesting point. Perhaps we should do that, too! /sarcasm
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