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Old 05-23-2018, 01:41 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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But wasn't the crime fleeing police?

How can you accidentally murder someone?

Does fleeing police logically become attempted murder?
seems like it would if we follow this example
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:03 PM
 
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Felony murder rule, if someone dies during the commission of a felony (even if the suspects didn't intend to kill anyone), all suspects involved in said felony are on the hook for that death. This, on the surface, looks like it meets that definition.
That doesn't fly..that's just shifting responsibility to offenders because its more convenient than admitting the truth.

Besides, nobody died during the commission of a felony...unless you allege that the pursuing police officer was involved in committing that felony. He's the one who died, not anyone who committed the felony.

Hey, how many people on the planet died while that chase was happening? Should the guy be charged for all of their deaths too? It happened during....whether HE caused the deaths is apparently irrelevant. Charge him with mass murder on a scale never before seen, it was tens of thousands of deaths!
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:06 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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https://www.wral.com/man-arrested-af...unty/17573949/

He didn't run over him like the black kid ran over that poor cop in Baltimore, but still..

"A man was arrested early Wednesday following a chase and crash that killed a trooper on Monday evening.

According to officials, Dakota Kape Whitt, 22, of Elkin, was arrested after an extensive search. Whitt is charged with murder, felony fleeing to elude arrest and driving with a revoked license."

Whitt wasn't the driver for a bunch of armed robbers. But still a cop killer. This will get into the cop fatality statistics, I guess, just like the Baltimore murder.

I don't expect much controversy about this one like the likely will be about the Baltimore one. Given that maybe it's a current event?
Damn white people.







That's what you wanted to hear, right?
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:09 PM
 
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Omg.......he was white!
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:20 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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That doesn't fly..that's just shifting responsibility to offenders because its more convenient than admitting the truth.

Besides, nobody died during the commission of a felony...unless you allege that the pursuing police officer was involved in committing that felony. He's the one who died, not anyone who committed the felony.

Hey, how many people on the planet died while that chase was happening? Should the guy be charged for all of their deaths too? It happened during....whether HE caused the deaths is apparently irrelevant. Charge him with mass murder on a scale never before seen, it was tens of thousands of deaths!
Doesn't fly? It's the law in NC (and plenty of other places), it flies and has been flying. The death occurred during the ongoing commission of the initial felony, it appears that there was no break in time during the commission of the original felony leading up to the Trooper's death. This qualifies it under NC law. You don't like the law, go get it changed. As for the rest of your post, it's nonsense.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That doesn't fly..that's just shifting responsibility to offenders because its more convenient than admitting the truth.

Besides, nobody died during the commission of a felony...unless you allege that the pursuing police officer was involved in committing that felony. He's the one who died, not anyone who committed the felony.

Hey, how many people on the planet died while that chase was happening? Should the guy be charged for all of their deaths too? It happened during....whether HE caused the deaths is apparently irrelevant. Charge him with mass murder on a scale never before seen, it was tens of thousands of deaths!
I feel the same way but it is the law here as well. These guys below were only shoplifting.


Police charge suspect's twin brother in connection with Bellaire officer's death | abc13.com


Police Charge Suspect's Twin Brother in Connection With Bellaire Officer's Death


Wednesday, July 20, 2016
BELLAIRE (KTRK) --

The twin brother of the man accused in a Bellaire police officer's death is also facing charges. Dante Moore is accused of leading police on a high-speed chase that ended in one officer's death.

The 27-year-old surrendered last Wednesday to Bellarie police, following the pursuit which began outside a Meyerland Target. Moore is accused of causing the death of Zarate. Prosecutors say Moore confessed to leading Zarate on a chase through residential streets at nearly 80 miles per hour after being stopped for an alleged shoplifting.

During the pursuit, Zarate lost control of his police motorcycle and struck a parked trailer.
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Old 05-23-2018, 06:42 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Damn white people.







That's what you wanted to hear, right?

Cacka assed cacka.
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:55 PM
 
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I feel the same way but it is the law here as well. These guys below were only shoplifting.


Police charge suspect's twin brother in connection with Bellaire officer's death | abc13.com


Police Charge Suspect's Twin Brother in Connection With Bellaire Officer's Death


Wednesday, July 20, 2016
BELLAIRE (KTRK) --

The twin brother of the man accused in a Bellaire police officer's death is also facing charges. Dante Moore is accused of leading police on a high-speed chase that ended in one officer's death.

The 27-year-old surrendered last Wednesday to Bellarie police, following the pursuit which began outside a Meyerland Target. Moore is accused of causing the death of Zarate. Prosecutors say Moore confessed to leading Zarate on a chase through residential streets at nearly 80 miles per hour after being stopped for an alleged shoplifting.

During the pursuit, Zarate lost control of his police motorcycle and struck a parked trailer.
Yah, its crazy and lazy. IF you are involved in a solo-vehicle car accident the only person at fault is YOU. You caused your own death. YOU killed yourself. Not some other person that wasn't involved. They weren't behind the wheel. Unless they sabotaged your car or put an obstacle in your way designed to make you crash, they have got nothing to do with it - you wrecked - its YOUR fault.

Any reasonable person should have realized that going 80 mph in a residential area is risking a serious crash that could cause great bodily injury or death. But the officer made that decision to go that fast. Nobody made him do that.

If some lard-butt cop has a heart attack while pulling you over, you're a murderer? EFF that.

Again people that think this way are crazy and lazy. Do better, idiots.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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so he fled police, and the pursuing officer crashed and was killed?

a little different than running over a cop, don't you think?
Exactly! I am not defending the actions of this young man, but I can say without question the "murder" charge will never stick. It would be different if the man had hit the trooper with his vehicle and caused the troopers death. But that's not what happened. The trooper was involved in a car accident while participating in a high speed chase to pursue the man who blew through the check. Very unfortunate, but that part can't be pinned on the guy they were chasing. I could see maybe, just maybe, an involuntary manslaughter charge, but even that is a bit of a stretch.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:28 PM
 
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Hogtie him to the black cop killer.
Lol @ you guys trying to muster up outrage.

We know it’s fake.
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