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Old 06-05-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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The particulars don't interest me that much. The big picture does though. We most certainly have a multi tier Justice system where everyone is not treated the same.

It would be cool to think that this lawsuit could change that but it won't.
This lawsuit will go nowhere.

And it's not a good case to assert a two-tier system. The sailor took pictures with the clear intent to share them with someone who wasn't authorized to see them. Secretary Clinton had no intention of sharing information with persons not authorized to see them. A significant difference.
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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This lawsuit will go nowhere.

And it's not a good case to assert a two-tier system. The sailor took pictures with the clear intent to share them with someone who wasn't authorized to see them. Secretary Clinton had no intention of sharing information with persons not authorized to see them. A significant difference.
We all know servers and email servers can be hacked. There is a reason they don't want servers and emails outside the building. How do they know you or the people you hire knows what they are doing? If what you said was true, then you are calling Hillary a dumb ass.

A friend works in a place where he has to get a gov't clearance. He is not allowed to remove anything from that building. He is also not allowed to use his interoffice email to communicate outside the building. Also no cell phones or other electronics are brought into the building. If he did and was caught, he would be fired immediately and potentially jailed. I can't believe you guys are buying into their lie.
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:03 PM
 
Location: My House
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Shoot me an IM when something actually comes of this.

Political stunt, it'll be out of the news cycle by noon.
Totally a political stunt. Since when did the armed forces take this sort of thing lightly?

He got off easy with just a year in jail, really.
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:06 PM
 
Location: My House
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This lawsuit will go nowhere.

And it's not a good case to assert a two-tier system. The sailor took pictures with the clear intent to share them with someone who wasn't authorized to see them. Secretary Clinton had no intention of sharing information with persons not authorized to see them. A significant difference.
This is the case in a nutshell. He even admitted that he knew he was wrong to take the photos in the first place.

Still, the judge went easy on him and he did his time. This is political theatre, nothing more.

Trump et al cannot go after Clinton again because there's nothing to go after, so this is what they pull.

It will not work.

Ask anyone who ever served.
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:11 PM
 
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Totally a political stunt. Since when did the armed forces take this sort of thing lightly?

He got off easy with just a year in jail, really.
Hillary got off even lighter. I know, I know, it's Hillary, she's special and deserves special treatment.
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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The lives of our undercover intelligence officers abroad often hang in the balance, and a well-kept secret is the difference between an officer coming home and going to a gulag. Likewise, spy operations can take years, if not decades, to put into action. But that's ok, Hillary is special, and we don't need to concern ourselves with her GROSS negligence
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Secretary Clinton had no intention of sharing information with persons not authorized to see them.
You were about to point out, weren't you, which law says her intention mattered in the least?

Please proceed.
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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Wasn’t the basis for Hillary not getting punished that there was no ill “intention?”
That’s such a slippery slope and needs to be looked at again legally. As clearly this guy had no ill intention with his photos, but Hillary’s intention of destroying evidence, obstructing Justice , skews on the wrong side if you looked at it with an unbiased legal eye.
No....the basis was Comey conspired with others to exonerate her even though he was fully aware she had violated federal law.
He rewrote the statute in his mind, and proceeded with this fake definition of the statute that somehow now miraculously included "intent" as an element of the offense (news flash...the real statute does not).

He is guilty and needs to be locked up. Along with both Clintons and all of those involved in exonerating her.
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The sailor took pictures with the clear intent to share them with someone who wasn't authorized to see them.
Sorry, but under the law governing classified information, the sailor's intent doesn't matter. If he took classified information (such as pictures of the inside of a nuclear submarine) and handled them improperly, he gets prosecuted. Doesn't matter what he "intended" with them.
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Secretary Clinton had no intention of sharing information with persons not authorized to see them. A significant difference.
Sorry, but under the law governing classified information, her intent doesn't matter. If she took classified information (such as classified e-mails about sensitive subjects) and handled them improperly, she gets prosecuted. Doesn't matter what she "intended" with them.

Except, the sailor got jailed. And Hillary didn't.

Despite the fact that their crimes were nearly identical.

Except that Hillary abused far more classified information than the sailor did.

And the idea that the Secretary of State didn't know what she was doing was illegal, is absurd.

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Old 06-05-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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This lawsuit will go nowhere.

And it's not a good case to assert a two-tier system. The sailor took pictures with the clear intent to share them with someone who wasn't authorized to see them. Secretary Clinton had no intention of sharing information with persons not authorized to see them. A significant difference.
Hillary asked her maid to print and deliver some of these classified emails......The maid said she didn’t read any of them.....really?
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