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Old 06-14-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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He is just your typical family values politician. They just cannot keep their pants zipped up.

Are you sure that isn't fantasy values politician?
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:15 PM
 
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Yeah because heterosexuals have such a great track record
Um.....your answer is contained in what you quoted

Gay or straight, people have a hard time with fidelity meaning commitment to one individual for life.
Self identified "Gays" are notorious for switching partners like they switch underwear
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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Um.....your answer is contained in what you quoted

Gay or straight, people have a hard time with fidelity meaning commitment to one individual for life.
Self identified "Gays" are notorious for switching partners like they switch underwear
I've known many "gays" who were very faithful to their partners.

And I've known a few men like Giuliani.

Some people have a hard time with fidelity. Some people don't have a hard time at all.
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Married ones?
My neighbors, whom I've known for about 6 years, are a married gay couple. I think it's been 3 years since they got married. They drove to DC to do it. However, marriage has not stopped them from having extra-marital affairs. In fact, over the last few years, they have had as many as 4 roommates/sex partners live with them, and they both engage in sexual activity with said individuals. In all the time I've known them, they have been a couple, but it has never been a monogamous relationship, even after they got married. If you are wondering how I know these intimate details, it's because they are very open about these things. And we are actually friends, one of them actually used to work for me at my restaurant. So I am not making assumptions here about their roomies, they have both told me they have sex with them. And honestly, I don't care. They are good neighbors, they never cause me any trouble. The only purpose of me sharing this information was to address the question posed by this user. Yes, married ones, from my experience, do seem to frequently engage in sex with different partners outside of their marriage. I'm sure that doesn't mean that all married gay couples engage in these activities, but the couple that I know personally certainly does.
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:29 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Default Married Family Values Republican Giuliani Dating Married GOP Fundraiser But Gays are Bad?

strawman.
giuliani never claimed to be a family values republican nor did he say gays are bad
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Um.....your answer is contained in what you quoted

Gay or straight, people have a hard time with fidelity meaning commitment to one individual for life.
Self identified "Gays" are notorious for switching partners like they switch underwear
This is absolutely true. I have been married for almost 20 years, and I have never strayed. But that is because I do not put myself in situations that might lead to me cheating on my wife. You actually have to make a conscious effort to stay away from situations which could lead you to break your vow. If I had ever wanted to cheat, I know it would not be a problem. However, if you honestly do not want to cheat, you still have to keep yourself in check and stay away from situations which might increase the likelihood that you will step out on your partner. We are all human, and I am not stupid enough to think that my will to be faithful could never be swayed by desire and opportunity. So I just try to make sure I'm never in a position to be tempted. And it's worked so far.
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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This is absolutely true. I have been married for almost 20 years, and I have never strayed. But that is because I do not put myself in situations that might lead to me cheating on my wife. You actually have to make a conscious effort to stay away from situations which could lead you to break your vow. If I had ever wanted to cheat, I know it would not be a problem. However, if you honestly do not want to cheat, you still have to keep yourself in check and stay away from situations which might increase the likelihood that you will step out on your partner. We are all human, and I am not stupid enough to think that my will to be faithful could never be swayed by desire and opportunity. So I just try to make sure I'm never in a position to be tempted. And it's worked so far.
Minimalist is saying that gay people are more likely to be unfaithful. Is that really your position as well?

Because I can't even count on one hand the men I've known that haven't cheated on their partners, and the vast majority of them are not gay. And I wouldn't say it was a gender thing, either, because I've known many women who cheated on their husbands.
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:46 PM
 
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It never ceases to amaze me that Republicans with multiple marriages and long histories of infidelity will have opposition to gay marriage on the Republican Party platform. They discard wives like tissue but gays are ruining the sanctity of marriage? Giuliani's third wife just filed for divorce.

Rudy Giuliani confirms he's dating Republican fundraiser | Daily Mail Online

Your overall point stands: that people who trade wives as much as they do their underwear undermines marriage more than gay marriage and it is hypocritical for someone to accept this type of behavior but bemoan two men marrying.

I personally think anti-gay marriage Republicans are typically hypocritical. They want smaller government, but then they want a bigger government to ban something that won't hurt them - gay marriage.

However, Giuliani supports gay marriage and has a similar time frame for conversion to that of Obama. He actually supported civil unions for same-sex couples years before Obama was even willing to go that far. He has even officiated a gay wedding.


https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politic...trump-cabinet/
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Old 06-14-2018, 03:30 PM
 
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This is absolutely true. I have been married for almost 20 years, and I have never strayed. But that is because I do not put myself in situations that might lead to me cheating on my wife. You actually have to make a conscious effort to stay away from situations which could lead you to break your vow. If I had ever wanted to cheat, I know it would not be a problem. However, if you honestly do not want to cheat, you still have to keep yourself in check and stay away from situations which might increase the likelihood that you will step out on your partner. We are all human, and I am not stupid enough to think that my will to be faithful could never be swayed by desire and opportunity. So I just try to make sure I'm never in a position to be tempted. And it's worked so far.
A+++++
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Old 06-14-2018, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Seriously? This is all you leftards have got? No dang wonder you're losing ground on a daily basis, no one takes you seriously anymore with this weak-sauce.
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