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What is this world coming to, with one year olds crying hysterically. That never used to happen. Welcome to Trump's America!
Ummm yeah, it was happening under Obama.
And there are kids in family court often.
And American citizens separated from parents because their parents went to jail, or were killed due to crime, or killed in car accidents caused by drunk drivers, many illegal alien drunk drivers.
What, why is legalization of most illegals the only rational solution. How is it a solution. Didn't we do that once or twice and the problem continues.
Enforce immigration laws, mandatory E-verify, build a wall, deport. That's the solution.
Sorry the immigration laws are funded at levels less than 10% of what it would take to correct the illegal alien problem in a decade. And there is no support for doing the task or paying for it. The immigration enforcement system can barely hold the existing population level anymore drive it down.
There is no support for an effective eVerify and any attempt to make one will likely be defeated by the Chambers of Commerce.
So the choices are legalize most or live with it. The right chooses to live with it.
So, you have no compassion for these families coming here, seeking asylum to escape dangerous situations in their native countries? A U.S. citizen who is convicted of a crime and gets sent to prison usually has family in this country who can take care of their children until they’re released. Trump wants to send these people back to Central America only to possibly have their entire family killed.
I have plenty of compassion. That does not mean we should allow anyone who shows up at our door into our home. We as a country cannot afford to subsidize further welfare recipients. We are already borrowing from our grandchildren's future to support our government and it's spending.
International law states that you stop being a refugee (and thus asylum seeker) the moment you cross an international border. Mexico should be accepting these refugees and granting asylum. Unless these people are Mexican or Canadian, they are not refugees legally. Asylum is only for refugees.
Mexico should be responsible for those who arrive at their borders. These people should stay in Mexico. There are US embassies in Mexico from which they can apply for entry into the US.
We are a nation (and world) of laws. Tell these people to stop breaking them and their children will not be separated from them.
I have plenty of compassion. That does not mean we should allow anyone who shows up at our door into our home. We as a country cannot afford to subsidize further welfare recipients. We are already borrowing from our grandchildren's future to support our government and it's spending.
International law states that you stop being a refugee (and thus asylum seeker) the moment you cross an international border. Mexico should be accepting these refugees and granting asylum. Unless these people are Mexican or Canadian, they are not refugees legally. Asylum is only for refugees.
Mexico should be responsible for those who arrive at their borders. These people should stay in Mexico. There are US embassies in Mexico from which they can apply for entry into the US.
We are a nation (and world) of laws. Tell these people to stop breaking them and their children will not be separated from them.
Nope. There is no requirement that asylum seekers use Mexico instead of continuing to the US.
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Mexican officials, however, said the migrants were under no legal obligation to apply in Mexico, and, indeed, more than 200 of them ended up crossing onto American soil and petitioning for sanctuary there.
But under a proposal for a bilateral agreement that the Trump administration has broached with Mexican officials, American border officials would have been able to legally turn back those asylum seekers, forcing them to seek protection in Mexico.
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NY Times
So Trump has proposed such an arrangement but it has not been agreed to.
Sorry the immigration laws are funded at levels less than 10% of what it would take to correct the illegal alien problem in a decade. And there is no support for doing the task or paying for it. The immigration enforcement system can barely hold the existing population level anymore drive it down.
There is no support for an effective eVerify and any attempt to make one will likely be defeated by the Chambers of Commerce.
So the choices are legalize most or live with it. The right chooses to live with it.
You know if the left would stop blocking every effort to curb illegal immigration, stop with sanctuary cities, legal defenses, protest, and emotional fabricated media reports it would not take a decade or funding.
Nope. There is no requirement that asylum seekers use Mexico instead of continuing to the US.
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Mexican officials, however, said the migrants were under no legal obligation to apply in Mexico, and, indeed, more than 200 of them ended up crossing onto American soil and petitioning for sanctuary there.
But under a proposal for a bilateral agreement that the Trump administration has broached with Mexican officials, American border officials would have been able to legally turn back those asylum seekers, forcing them to seek protection in Mexico.
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NY Times
So Trump has proposed such an arrangement but it has not been agreed to.
"internally displaced persons (IDPs) – including individuals fleeing natural disasters and generalized violence, stateless individuals not outside their country of habitual residence or not facing persecution, and individuals who have crossed an international border fleeing generalized violence are not considered refugees under either the 1951 Convention or the 1967 Optional Protocol."
Ummm yeah, it was happening under Obama.
And there are kids in family court often.
And American citizens separated from parents because their parents went to jail, or were killed due to crime, or killed in car accidents caused by drunk drivers, many illegal alien drunk drivers.
There are kids in family court often, but usually they're not snatched away from their parents unless there is abuse.
Yes, many children are separated from their parents due to death, accidents, etc. But this ain't that.
Just pointing out how incompetent immigration staffers are.
Being rude does not have anything to do with competence.
Incompetence would have been doing something wrong that interfered with your family getting green cards.
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Because it is the most practical thing to do under the circumstances. If we are going to make it easier to enter the country legally, what is the point of forcing illegal immigrants to go through the ministerial step of putting their foot outside of the country during the application process? It doesn't do our economy any good to deport 13 million people even if we could. Let them apply for naturalization, pay back taxes, and contribute to society and the economy going forward. This is particularly true for DACA recipients.
Actually we do. The US has a labor shortage and an aging population.
When DACA was announced I predicted to my husband that there would be a flood of people coming across the border illegally. That is exactly what happened. DACA is another amnesty, and hopes of a similar amnesty in the future pull more people in illegally.
No more amnesties. Period. Stop doing it. That includes those now covered by DACA. I am sorry that their parents brought them here illegally, but rewarding them for it is not a Good Idea.
They can return to the country of their birth and use their educations to make a living - probably a very good living - there or get in line to come here legally.
As long as Americans are out of work there is not a labor shortage. I know people in the construction trades who went out of business because they could not compete with people who undercut them by hiring illegal labor at salaries (often under the table) that he could not pay to American citizens. The people providing that illegal labor may be great human beings, but they do not belong here. The people who hire them need to be identified and penalized. It should not be possible for someone here illegally to work anywhere. By the way, there are ways for migrant agricultural workers to come here legally.
You know if the left would stop blocking every effort to curb illegal immigration, stop with sanctuary cities, legal defenses, protest, and emotional fabricated media reports it would not take a decade or funding.
Nonsense. None of that amounts to a hill of beans. The problem is 11 million people well established in the US society and basically impossible to rip out without a mammoth force and tens of years...and even then it may not be doable.
If you could get eVerify what happens is the illegal all move to the black market. Sure a hand full will leave, but the vast majority simply go to the dark economy. And that just makes things worse.
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