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Old 09-26-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Surprise, surprise. The fake "media" is touting that McGlockton was "turning away" when he was shot. No, he turned instinctively when the gun fired. But, what is also in the autopsy buried under the headlines is that McGlockton's body was full of drugs when he died.

 
Old 09-26-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Surprise, surprise. The fake "media" is touting that McGlockton was "turning away" when he was shot. No, he turned instinctively when the gun fired. But, what is also in the autopsy buried under the headlines is that McGlockton's body was full of drugs when he died.
Funny isn't it, it's the autopsy that you apparently don't believe says he was turning away, but that's fake news...but when it comes to drugs, it's a headline to you.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/public...oter_172109838

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The toxicology report shows traces of the amphetamines in both McGlockton’s urine and blood. Nelson said the amount is not unusually high or low and that the drugs can cause hyperactivity and insomnia. It’s unclear how long they had been in his system, Nelson said, but the fact that they showed up in his blood suggests more recent ingestion.
Trace amounts doesn't equate to "body full of drugs".
 
Old 09-26-2018, 09:55 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Funny isn't it, it's the autopsy that you apparently don't believe says he was turning away, but that's fake news...but when it comes to drugs, it's a headline to you.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/public...oter_172109838



Trace amounts doesn't equate to "body full of drugs".
They were found in the blood, not metabolites found in urine. He did the drugs recently. They were in the blood and circulating around the body. So, yes, his body was full of drugs.
 
Old 09-26-2018, 10:02 AM
 
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They were found in the blood, not metabolites found in urine. He did the drugs recently. They were in the blood and circulating around the body. So, yes, his body was full of drugs.
It also says he was turning away, but you don't believe that, do you?
 
Old 09-26-2018, 10:14 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It also says he was turning away, but you don't believe that, do you?
The bullet path in the autopsy reflect the exact moment the bullet hit him. Bullet path and trajectory could be disputed by the defense, as it is not like a lab test for DNA or drugs, there is some subjectivity and guesswork involved. But, even if the trajectory is accurate, it only means that his body was turned away at the second the bullet hit him. No doubt he turned on instinct when the gun went off. It doesn't prove he was turning or running away when the victim decided to pull the trigger.
 
Old 09-26-2018, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I never mocked anyone. I pointed to YOU defending the guy for his thinking while not giving the same benefit to the other guy. You keep putting both men, who are reacting the same way to a perceived threat, under different rules.

You condemn the one guy for ignoring signs that there was no threat, but defend the other guy for ignoring signs that there was no threat.

You condemn one guy for defensive actions but defend the other guy for his defensive actions.

You say one guy should have mitigated the situation before he acted, but don't require that same restraint from the other guy.
There were no signs that there was no threat...lol! You sound more ridiculous with every post.
 
Old 09-26-2018, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Surprise, surprise. The fake "media" is touting that McGlockton was "turning away" when he was shot. No, he turned instinctively when the gun fired. But, what is also in the autopsy buried under the headlines is that McGlockton's body was full of drugs when he died.
I think he started turning away when he saw the gun, but by then it was too late. A second later it was fired.

And I suppose, not knowing if someone else is armed and going to shoot once they see you've got a gun, you've boxed yourself in at that point.
 
Old 09-26-2018, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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There were no signs that there was no threat...lol! You sound more ridiculous with every post.
Backing away isn't a sign that there's no longer a threat?

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I think he started turning away when he saw the gun, but by then it was too late. A second later it was fired.

And I suppose, not knowing if someone else is armed and going to shoot once they see you've got a gun, you've boxed yourself in at that point.
Nevermind... You already concede that by the time he fired the guy was backing down.
So why are you still defending a shooting when there was no longer a threat?
 
Old 09-26-2018, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Backing away isn't a sign that there's no longer a threat?



Nevermind... You already concede that by the time he fired the guy was backing down.
So why are you still defending a shooting when there was no longer a threat?
It happened rather quickly. The perpetrator was still very close and could have caused harm. He turned and then got shot. At that close a distance you may not have enough time to defend yourself if he reversed course and charged.
 
Old 09-26-2018, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Backing away isn't a sign that there's no longer a threat?



Nevermind... You already concede that by the time he fired the guy was backing down.
So why are you still defending a shooting when there was no longer a threat?
How much time elapsed between him backing away and the gun firing? Ralph_Kirk posted those numbers here. Someone else posted the entire timeline at about 8 stages of the incident.

There was no time to think at that point. No time to process whether or not one of the three had a gun and might shoot him if he didn't. All he knew is that he had been assaulted and two guys were approaching. By the time the assaulter started to back away, it was too late - the train had already left the station.
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