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Old 09-26-2018, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I heard it was a drunk Brett Kavanaugh that did the pushing.

 
Old 09-27-2018, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
It happened rather quickly. The perpetrator was still very close and could have caused harm. He turned and then got shot. At that close a distance you may not have enough time to defend yourself if he reversed course and charged.
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Originally Posted by MPowering1 View Post
How much time elapsed between him backing away and the gun firing? Ralph_Kirk posted those numbers here. Someone else posted the entire timeline at about 8 stages of the incident.

There was no time to think at that point. No time to process whether or not one of the three had a gun and might shoot him if he didn't. All he knew is that he had been assaulted and two guys were approaching. By the time the assaulter started to back away, it was too late - the train had already left the station.
"Things were moving too fast" is not a defense or a justification for killing someone.

Meanwhile, you keep using this reasoning to give cover to the shooter, that all he could do was react bc of the threat and the distance, when that same logic would also apply to the husband defending his wife from a stranger harassing her.

The shooter was free to act bc of how close the threat was, but the husband doesn't get that same benefit when his wife was just as close to the guy harassing her?

Why do you keep insisting that the husband should have let his wife be attacked when she was already being threatened? She was in a more dangerous situation by the time her husband jumped in than the shooter was when the husband was backing away.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 06:03 AM
 
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I hope he’s set free, unlike the cop. She needs prison for life. He assaulted, he shoots and wins. She gunned innocent man down in own home
 
Old 09-27-2018, 08:02 AM
 
Location: England
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
"Things were moving too fast" is not a defense or a justification for killing someone.

Meanwhile, you keep using this reasoning to give cover to the shooter, that all he could do was react bc of the threat and the distance, when that same logic would also apply to the husband defending his wife from a stranger harassing her.

The shooter was free to act bc of how close the threat was, but the husband doesn't get that same benefit when his wife was just as close to the guy harassing her?

Why do you keep insisting that the husband should have let his wife be attacked when she was already being threatened? She was in a more dangerous situation by the time her husband jumped in than the shooter was when the husband was backing away.
Watch the video again Eddie. Notice the woman's partner come out of the store, and hitch his pants up as he approaches the car. As soon as she sees him coming, she climbs out of the car.

Why didn't she stay in the car if she felt threatened? She climbed out, to stand close to the guy harassing her. I guess she knew she was going to see some action.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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We must have seen different videos. I never saw the victim taking a step toward the perp, I saw the opposite. He was backing away when he was shot.

The guy with the gun has a history of going around armed, looking for a fight. He finally found one. Now he will deal with the consequences of that, which I hope is prison for a good, long stretch for murder. Because that's what this was.
You must have seen a video that edited-out the shover moving forward when the shooter was on the ground. Three things from the video should be undisputed. Shover moved forward after the shove; stopped and began to move back as shooter reached his arm to his right rear; and he was shot after taking 3 or 4 steps backwards.

Never will be a consensus on what those mean legally or in terms of right and wrong.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
"Things were moving too fast" is not a defense or a justification for killing someone.

Meanwhile, you keep using this reasoning to give cover to the shooter, that all he could do was react bc of the threat and the distance, when that same logic would also apply to the husband defending his wife from a stranger harassing her.

The shooter was free to act bc of how close the threat was, but the husband doesn't get that same benefit when his wife was just as close to the guy harassing her?

Why do you keep insisting that the husband should have let his wife be attacked when she was already being threatened? She was in a more dangerous situation by the time her husband jumped in than the shooter was when the husband was backing away.
You're once again asking us to suspend the fact that a man who was assaulted and is being approached by two males much younger than he shouldn't feel threatened - while making things up like his wife was "attacked" and had been "threatened".

She wasn't attacked. Whether she was threatened or not is highly unlikely since she didn't state this after the shooting.

Stop making things up - it's not helpful.
 
Old 10-14-2018, 11:23 AM
 
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[url]https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/No-arrest-in-fatal-shooting-during-argument-over-handicap-parking-space_170174041[/url]


McGlockton went up to Drejka and "slammed him to the ground," the sheriff said.




"Our job and our role is not to substitute our judgment for the law and what the Legislature has crafted as the framework," he said, "but to enforce it equally and fairly as we’re required to do."




An Armed society is a polite society. Want to be violent? Today is a good day to die, then.


I have no pity. None what so ever.
I believe in an individual's right to protect themselves. However, I'm handicapped and have been prevented from using handicapped facilities due to others using them out of convenience.
 
Old 10-14-2018, 12:35 PM
 
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I believe in an individual's right to protect themselves. However, I'm handicapped and have been prevented from using handicapped facilities due to others using them out of convenience.
Many convenience grabbers are non-respectional people.

Matter of fact, this country is in a dearth of respectionism.

Assertations have taken over.

Some forms of assertations are . . dangerous.

Last edited by Hyperthetic; 10-14-2018 at 01:14 PM..
 
Old 08-23-2019, 09:40 PM
 
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Manslaughter

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ju...xcHGnL2Cn4fBos

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The judge set the sentencing date for October 10. Drejka faces up to 30 years in prison.

Drejka, who didn't take the witness stand, tried unsuccessfully to use Florida's "stand your ground' law as a defense for justifiable homicide. The case renewed a nationwide debate on the controversial law.
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