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Old 07-22-2018, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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Argh, this puts me in a difficult position.

On the one hand, one of my biggest pet peeves is when people park in handicapped spots without a permit. It's just so wrong on many levels. I'm not sure I have the guts to do so, but I want to tell those people off as well. Nobody should be that lazy.

On the other hand, I don't think the OP's assessment of what an armed society is happens to be accurate.

 
Old 07-22-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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His karma would’ve been getting pushed as well. Nice try, thanks for playing.
Pushed? So karma is an eye for an eye? No. I think his karma was getting shot in the heart. Thanks for playing.
 
Old 07-22-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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I’m as pro-gun and pro-self defense as it gets. The issue I see is that the attacker did not follow up once the shooter was on the floor. He pushed him then stood still in what I guess was an attempt to create some space between the man and his girlfriend. The shooter pulls his weapon and once the attacker saw this he slowly retreated. At that point the shooter had no justification for shooting him. His life was no longer in imminent danger.
That can’t be proven. The cops saw the same footage we did and determined there was a justified threat to the shooters life.

Lesson learned. In Florida you might want to think twice before getting physical with someone just because you think you can get away with it.

I hope this man files a lawsuit against the dead perps estate for pain and trauma.
 
Old 07-22-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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Pushed? So karma is an eye for an eye? No. I think his karma was getting shot in the heart. Thanks for playing.
Nope, it really wasn’t. Hopefully this guy will mess with the wrong person in the future.
 
Old 07-22-2018, 02:49 PM
 
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Nope, it really wasn’t. Hopefully this guy will mess with the wrong person in the future.
What a small man you're. All that hate in your heart will cause you to live a shorter life.
 
Old 07-22-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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I don't see it that way. When you panic, your brain shuts down and you only react in a very limited range of circumstances. If that panic was caused due to a violent battery by another individual, I prefer society doesn't intervene.
I dunno- that seems like a really low standard. Granted, we use this reasoning all the time to justify police shootings. But that doesn't make it right or reasonable IMO.
 
Old 07-22-2018, 02:50 PM
 
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What a small man you're. All that hate in your heart will cause you to live a shorter life.
Nah, I’ve got great genes.
 
Old 07-22-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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He was threatened whit great bodily harm, he had every right to defend himself, I feel no sympathy for the dead guy, he should have kept his hands to himself.
 
Old 07-22-2018, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Don’t confront people in their face. Hopefully he’ll do it again to someone who does more to him than just push him to the ground.
So a heated conversation justifies criminal activity and violence in your mind. Good to know.
 
Old 07-22-2018, 02:53 PM
 
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I dunno- that seems like a really low standard. Granted, we use this reasoning all the time to justify police shootings. But that doesn't make it right or reasonable IMO.
It very much does. Murder is about intent not about outcome.

Example. Someone is driving and is distracted and accidentally runs over a kid. Yes, the kid died but unless this person was driving recklessly, drunk, or clearly breaking some traffic rule, they won't be charged.

Likewise, in a panic situation, especially one at no legal fault of their own, we don't charge for murder. Because we live in a civilized society that values forgiveness and not blood per blood justice.
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