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There's also a number of cleaners than you need to present ID for are they not groceries either? I typically buy them at the grocery store. Same as lighting fluid (for charcoal grilling), get carded for that too and a number of OTC medicines like Sudafed. Beer and wine you get carded for too, and booze, they're pretty much grocery items, unless you're buying something high end and then you're guaranteed to need ID.
I mean the reality is that the items you may buy in a grocery store a very large number do need to present valid ID, either because the item needs ID presented, or you need to present ID for payment. Over the past decade the number of times I've not had to present ID has become so infrequent it's noticeable that I don't have to show ID.
I've never been carded for buying lighter fluid or household cleaners myself.
I wouldn't call Sudafed a grocery item. Sudafed PE, sure. Sudafed you'll have to go to a pharmacy for as it's behind the counter. That's just where I draw the line though. You can get OxyContin from the attached pharmacy in a grocery store as well. To me that doesn't mean it's a grocery item but maybe it is to you.
With alcohol I almost always got carded up until around 30. It's infrequent now. I get asked to see my ID more often when paying with a credit card than when buying alcohol. YMMV. Point is really that, yes, you may need an ID if you buy alcohol or pay with a credit card or personal check (if anyone still uses those). But you don't need to buy alcohol or pay with a credit card or check.
if paying by check...need an ID
if paying by credit card, they are supposed to match ID to CC, so need an id
if buying beer (at the grocery store/ walmart) need an ID
if buying wine (at the grocery store/ walmart) need an ID
if buying NyQuil (at the grocery store/ walmart) need an ID
if buying spraypaint (at the grocery store/ walmart) need an ID
if buying epoxy (at the grocery store/ walmart) need an ID
if buying sutifed(sp) (at the grocery store/ walmart) need an ID
if buying cigarettes (at the grocery store/ walmart) need an ID
if buying cigars, chewing tobacco, and now vapor stuff (at the grocery store/ walmart) need an ID
if buying a lighter or BBQ lighter (at the grocery store/ walmart) need an ID
so trump isn't really off... mostly correct
I've never, not once, not ever been carded using my credit card. I use my credit card for everything.
Most of these other items are not grocery items. Alcohol, cigarettes, cigars, etc. are not sold in grocery stores in my state. I've never been carded for buying a lighter, and I've bought lighters in 4 or 5 different states. News to me from this forum that it would be expected to be carded for buying such an item.
The fact of the matter is if it doesn't hold true for buying groceries in all situations, then it is a bad analogy.
That makes no sense. "All" wasn't a qualifier in the statement. It is indeed true that one needs a photo ID to buy groceries. I do. That makes the statement true.
IMO a photo ID card is needed for using SNAP benefits and making sure that the legitimate person is using those SNAP debit cards. And the cashiers need to sign off on having followed the procedure.
The guy was ranting non-sense when he said this, and people take it seriously and start discussing it seriously. I bet if trump gives a talk about his farts people will talk about it like it is part of their life.
I've never, not once, not ever been carded using my credit card. I use my credit card for everything.
That explains why banks are able to write off so much ("corporate welfare," don't you know) in CC/DC fraud. $8.45 billion/year in the US. (Source: Nilson Report, October 2016)
you're being naive if you think paying cash keeps you anonymous in the stores....
Pay cash? You're still tracked....
Your Phone Number
When you reach the checkout in many stores, you will be asked for your phone number. Most people just give it out without even thinking. If you ask why, you will probably be told something like, “we just like to know where in the state our customers are coming from.” While that’s not untrue, there is way more to it than that. It’s also another reason loyalty programs like to tie your phone number and email address to the card.
Once you give up that phone number, you are handing over all of your purchasing information to the retailer. And if that retailer is very savvy, such as Target, they can analyze it with some sophisticated software to discover just what your future may hold, and how they can be there for you. Take the example of a young woman who was buying things that Target associates with an upcoming pregnancy (for example, cocoa-butter lotion, magnesium supplements, a large purse, and a powder blue rug). Target sent this girl a circular featuring a lot of maternity clothing and baby furniture. Her parents were furious, until they found out later that she was actually pregnant. As reported by Forbes, Target knew about the baby before the girl’s own parents did. And Target also assigns every single customer with a “pregnancy prediction score.” Scary? Many people think so.
Your Smartphone
This is not about the phone number, but the technology used in your smartphone. Through a technique known as geofencing, which uses Wi-Fi and/or Bluetooth, retailers are automatically alerted to your presence as you approach, enter, and browse the store. And once again, Target is one of those retailers that is on the cutting edge of this technology.
If you have an app like Cartwheel installed on your phone, you may notice that offers pop up as you enter the Target store (or, after a few minutes of browsing). This is not a weird coincidence. This is all part of Target’s strategy to get you spending more in their stores. And of course, as they already know a lot about your shopping habits, they can serve up the coupons and offers that are most likely to get you opening your wallet. Make a purchase using the app, and bingo, you have just given even more information to their database. Now they know not only what you’re buying, but how effective their instant offers are; and they can tailor them to be even more successful in the future.
Free Wi-Fi
They say nothing is really free, and in this case, it applies to Wi-Fi. We all love free Wi-Fi because it prevents us from eating into our own data plans, and it’s usually a lot faster than 4G. But there is a price to pay for it, and that price is information. It may seem very Orwellian, but these days, stores can use their Wi-Fi service and your phone to track your shopping habits in real-time while in the store. They know which aisles you’re visiting first, which offers keep you occupied the longest, and can even trace the path you take from the entrance to the checkout.
While it’s harder (but not impossible) to capture this data on a person-by-person case, it is usually used as a research tool to help stores improve the shopping experience. If certain aisles are more successful than others, they will know why. If there are areas of overcrowding, they can be fixed. The aim is to get people spending more, and that is most likely to happen when the customer is happier in the store, and ready to peruse for a longer period of time. So the next time you use Wi-Fi anywhere from a bookstore to a warehouse store, remember… your every move could be tracked.
Website Cookies
If you don’t know already, a cookie is a small piece of data stored on your computer, tablet, or phone by a website’s server. It is used to help keep track of your movements within the site, and is usually very helpful. For instance, it can store the last page you visited, autofill forms, or provide suggestions based on your last visit. But, it can also assist the retailer behind the website, supplying them with information about your previous visits and purchases, your searches, and your overall shopping habits. This is often a benefit to you, as you may receive offers to entice you to buy something that you left in your shopping cart.
It can also be used against you. A prime example is vacation searches. The more you search, be it for a hotel or flight, the likelier it is that the prices will actually go up. The sites know you’re looking for a vacation, and when something is in demand, the price rises. By browsing anonymously, or using a VPN (virtual private network), you can stop that. Websites can also sell this cookie information to a third party, and it is common these days for sites to refuse entry if you turn off cookies. They want to know everything about you. You can also routinely clear you cookies, which may cause a few pages to load more slowly.
Purchasing Data
Quite often, you will see language like, “We do not sell or share your information with third parties” on websites, forms, and other methods of collecting your personal information. That’s because it has become common practice for many retailers to store, collate, and sell the information of millions of customers for a profit. In the age of online retailing and phone shopping, big data is huge. The more retailers can know about you, the more targeted their campaigns can be. If a company wants to specifically focus on white males, ages 31–40, who smoke, drink, and subscribe to a sports package, they can buy that list. It can be expensive, initially, for retailers to buy this data, but it can really pay off because their message is laser-focused on the audience they want to reach.
All of these methods mentioned above — including phone numbers, loyalty information, and website patterns — can be collected and sold. When they are in control of it, they can build on the data, creating a picture of you as a consumer that is so detailed, you may be shocked by its accuracy, and invasion of privacy.
CCTV Equipment
Smile, you’re on camera. We are in the age of eyes in the sky, and big brother on every street corner. Cameras are also a major part of every store’s infrastructure, and if you think they are only there to monitor shoplifters, think again.
As The Guardian reported earlier this year, facial recognition software can determine who is entering the store, and how they are reacting to certain displays and promotions. If you’re a guy with a beard, and there is an endcap devoted to grooming products, the retailer wants to know if you’re reacting to it. As this technology develops, it will not be unusual to see specific ads targeted to certain consumers as they walk through the store. Expect to see ads for maternity products being displayed on LCD screens as a pregnant lady walks past, which change to ads for toys as a family with small children pass by the same area. This is not decades away; this technology is already being perfected. If it sounds like something from Minority Report, it’s not far off.
Social Media
You probably have at least a Facebook account, and possibly Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, SnapChat, and FourSquare. While these are all great ways to share information and keep in touch with friends, they are also a boon for retailers, who also have a massive presence on these platforms. Brands and retailers can push offers and information at you 24/7, and sophisticated software can help them interact with you. They know if you “like” certain products or advertisements. They provide links to let you instantly purchase products and services that have been sent to you. They give out rewards for sharing offers and coupons. And the more you do it, the more they learn about you and your habits.
Some people have started multiple social media accounts — one for personal use, and one that does not share as much private information — for this very reason. You are being watched constantly on social media, and you are being targeted with specific offers based on data that has been collected.
Be careful out there.
Trump was right, you're being ID'd from the time you park in the lot.
I've never, not once, not ever been carded using my credit card. I use my credit card for everything.
Most of these other items are not grocery items. Alcohol, cigarettes, cigars, etc. are not sold in grocery stores in my state. I've never been carded for buying a lighter, and I've bought lighters in 4 or 5 different states. News to me from this forum that it would be expected to be carded for buying such an item.
And yet other posters have. Alcohol, cigarettes, ammo, drugs are all sold in groceries stores in my state.
What state you in that doesn't have a WAL MART?
This past weekend I bought the kid some school clothes at Vanity Fair using my debit card and had to show ID. Had to show ID at the dollar general when buying childrens cough syrup (they sell groceries too).
So some people have to show their ID a lot, even at grocery stores and some people dont.
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