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Old 08-15-2018, 05:56 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Its very simple. Just look at the numbers. A single payer program should easily be able to cost 12% of GDP which would be the most expensive single program in the world (but far below the 18% of GDP we spend now on healthcare). 12% of GDP is about $2.3 trillion. We spend $1.7 trillion of tax payer money right now and another $1.8 trillion in private outlays, for a total of $3.5 trillion in health care spending. We would have to raise $600 billion to get to $2.3 trillion. A 5% federal sales tax can raise that money.

So we would pay less, get more and everyone would be covered.
Uhhh.....NO. It's not entirely about the money, it's about taking from producers and giving it to parasites.
See the big picture?
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:01 AM
 
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The Republicans feel genuinely threatened by this woman and want to try and torpedo her early.

They are skeeered....
Nope. They have to cover all bases. Expose the corruption of the "newcomer" leftist politicians from the start.

"Nip it! Nipit! Nip it in the bud!"
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:01 AM
 
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They didn't turn to Trump. They refused to come out for Hillary.


Wrong, there were more votes in 2016 than another other presidential election in PA since 1960...


https://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElectio...tatistics.aspx


2016 - ​6,115,402
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:53 AM
 
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Newsflash! This isn't Socialist Europe. Yet.
Do they bail out failed businesses? I'm not sure. Can you tell me?
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:54 AM
 
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Uhhh.....NO. It's not entirely about the money, it's about taking from producers and giving it to parasites.
See the big picture?
How is a failed business that takes from producers not parasitic?
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:58 AM
 
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Wrong, there were more votes in 2016 than another other presidential election in PA since 1960...


https://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElectio...tatistics.aspx


2016 - ​6,115,402
Kenney Says Philly Turnout Was High Tuesday. That’s Completely Untrue.

Read more at https://www.phillymag.com/news/2016/...U6t6utxzy5W.99

Well before the election I was one of the few noting that Trump could win Pennsylvania if Hillary could not get places like Philadelphia to turn out. She couldn't.
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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Kenney Says Philly Turnout Was High Tuesday. That’s Completely Untrue.

Read more at https://www.phillymag.com/news/2016/...U6t6utxzy5W.99

Well before the election I was one of the few noting that Trump could win Pennsylvania if Hillary could not get places like Philadelphia to turn out. She couldn't.

You do understand that I provided "State" numbers, and not "city" numbers, yes?


More people in PA voted that year than any other since 1960. Did you even read the link I provided?


You can cherry pick here and there to make yourself right, but overall, you are wrong.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Note that this is Bastiat's definition of socialism (in 1850):

"Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole — with their common aim of legal plunder — constitute socialism.

The Law, by Frederic Bastiat
He is wrong socialism is less than half of these things, and the few that are correct don’t even exist in most socialist systems.

Profit for all? There is no profit in a correct socialist state. Welfare, tarrifs, and state subsides, minimum wage, and taxes have nothing to do with socialism/Marxism, none would exist or be supported.

The problem with ‘intellectuals’ that poison public discourse in favor of their preferred ideology (capitalism) is that they lead the discussion down a rabbit hole of lies.

To this day Americans assume gun control, or a strong central government are a tenet of Marxism, and thanks to the above no one on this thread could have a real discussion on the issue.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I’d be happy to provide a link to straw man definition if you would like. I think you would benefit from it. Let me know if you need clarification.
I know what a straw man is, I also no Shapiro state supremacy theory is that of a sick man who believes his intellect doesn’t need morality to operate, and that anything that could possibly falsify his arguments must be killed.

He things we’ The good guys who kill children in defense, he knows nothing of history, and believes terrorists and the government are naturally opposed (not aligned like is the reality). He is the worse type of propagandist, one that believes in state slaughter and think all who oppose the imperial machine of the state are animals who should be run over.

Than man doesn’t deserve respect, he is the animal, a murderous monster who feeds on the suffering of others.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:15 AM
 
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Originally Posted by odanny The Republicans feel genuinely threatened by this woman and want to try and torpedo her early.

They are skeeered....





Yea, really scared of an economics graduate that says 200million workers are making less than 20k a year....



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