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Old 08-10-2018, 07:38 AM
 
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That's a bad assumption that you are making. I am becoming increasingly convinced that there is little understanding of the value of a free press, nor of the fundamental upheaval that would occur if it is indeed destroyed - particularly with the hardline Trump supporters. They are playing with fire like foolish children.
When you say "free press" you are saying they should be free to lie and push fake news aren't you.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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When you say "free press" you are saying they should be free to lie and push fake news aren't you.
I'm curious as to what media you rely on for your news.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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This should be disturbing to all Americans - assuming that you understand that a free press is a bedrock foundational element of a democracy.


Billionaires vs. the Press in the Era of Trump
A small group of superrich Americans — the president-elect among them — has laid the groundwork for an unprecedented legal assault on the media
By Emily Bazelon

In the last few years, Trump has been joined by at least two billionaires who are determined to exploit cracks in the wall of defense around the press... They have sued or funded suits to defend reputations or protect privacy. But an underlying aim appears to be to punish critics...or even destroy entire media outlets.

This mistrust has been growing for a long time, but it was stoked by Trump during the campaign. He called the reporters who covered him “scum” and whipped up yelling and booing crowds.

For the whole article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/m...-of-trump.html
so when Obama said Fox news was fake news...did you post... or is your biasedness showing??
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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I think what Trump wants is media similar to the media in Russia...Totally state controlled...Although I often hear Trump and his followers say that mainstream media is fake I've never seen even one of them back that statement up with a specific example.
Russia, Russia, Russia, it's always the same with you people.

Funny since it's the left that is using government money to sponsor state media and has 93% of so-called journalists in their party.

If you haven't seen any specific examples of fake news coming from mainstream media you're either lying or so blindly partisan you refuse to see it and there's no point in trying to show you again.

Much if the media is so clearly partisan political activists they stopped being journalists or part of the press (supposedly independent news reporters) years ago. You probably think Acosta is an unbiased journalist.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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No POTUS in modern history has been more critical of media than Trump.

He could increase his popularity hugely if he would lay off the tweet and moderate his rhetoric.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Russia, Russia, Russia, it's always the same with you people.

Funny since it's the left that is using government money to sponsor state media and has 93% of so-called journalists in their party.

If you haven't seen any specific examples of fake news coming from mainstream media you're either lying or so blindly partisan you refuse to see it and there's no point in trying to show you again.

Much if the media is so clearly partisan political activists they stopped being journalists or part of the press (supposedly independent news reporters) years ago. You probably think Acosta is an unbiased journalist.
I notice that you failed to give me an example of "fake news" from the mainstream media...How come?
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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oh boo hoo for the press. if they would stop with the bull crap and do their jobs right, and actually inestigate things, instead of just print rumors and garbage, then perhaps they might get more respect.
What bullcrap? Be specific with facts & legitimate links.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:37 AM
 
Location: North America
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oh boo hoo for the press. if they would stop with the bull crap and do their jobs right, and actually inestigate things, instead of just print rumors and garbage, then perhaps they might get more respect.
Unlike Breitbart, InfoWars, World Net Daily, most of Fox "News"...the bastions of truth.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:41 AM
 
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Why are Conservatives constantly harping on about small government but now they want something approaching big government since they don't like what the media says. It just makes them look like hypocrites.

Guess what Conservatives it's a free world. Media should be free to report what they want.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
This should be disturbing to all Americans - assuming that you understand that a free press is a bedrock foundational element of a democracy.


Billionaires vs. the Press in the Era of Trump
A small group of superrich Americans — the president-elect among them — has laid the groundwork for an unprecedented legal assault on the media

By Emily Bazelon

In the last few years, Trump has been joined by at least two billionaires who are determined to exploit cracks in the wall of defense around the press... They have sued or funded suits to defend reputations or protect privacy. But an underlying aim appears to be to punish critics...or even destroy entire media outlets.

This mistrust has been growing for a long time, but it was stoked by Trump during the campaign. He called the reporters who covered him “scum” and whipped up yelling and booing crowds.

For the whole article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/m...-of-trump.html
This is a bizarre post. Are you so naive to believe that the press is “free” when most of the news and TV stations are owned by a very small grp of billionaires? Do you really believe the Washington Post didnt change after Bezos bought it? What about Comcast who owns NBC? You really believe there has been no change in content or opinion after the Comcast acquistion? You are very naive or very blind.
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