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Old 08-10-2018, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Well the fact that the right wing are constantly harping on about the media and how it lies is the proof that I need. Like how do they know that Trump isn't the one lying.
sooo..you equate conservatives questioning the truthfullness of the media as the same as "And it's right wing extremists that want to end freedom for the media."?? Really?
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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sooo..you equate conservatives questioning the truthfullness of the media as the same as "And it's right wing extremists that want to end freedom for the media."?? Really?
And you don’t question the truthfulness of trump ever. Why is that?
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Interesting
Many call a defense an attack and an attack a defense
Of this I am sure cnn does not work for the public
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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No POTUS in history has been more critical of media than Trump.

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not true..


the POTUS has had an up and down relationship with the press since the beginning


John Adams was so concerned about foreign influence (the French) on our press, he signed into law the 1798 Sedition Act, which made publishing anything critical of the government illegal.




Jefferson criticized what he perceived as the partisan nature of the media (a fair criticism at a time when newspapers printed stories with overt bias and published personal attacks on politicians). Jefferson wrote to a newspaper editor in 1807, “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper.


Ulysses S. Grant had the press in mind when he concluded his second inaugural address. Grant said, “Throughout the war, and from my candidacy for my present office in 1868 to the close of the last presidential campaign, I have been the subject of abuse and slander scarcely ever equaled in political history.”




Theodore Roosevelt. He despised the press and called them a bunch of muckrakers for their sensationalism and false reporting. “The liars,” Roosevelt said of the media, “is no whit better than the thief, and if his mendacity take the form of slander he may be worse than most thieves.”


few people remember is that during World War I, Wilson curtailed the freedom of the press “through a dual strategy of censorship and propaganda.” According to History, Wilson wanted “authority to exercise censorship over the Press to the extent that that censorship. . . is absolutely necessary to the public safety.”




FDR..enjoyed an extended honeymoon with the press his first year as president. Yet, FDR’s legendary charm began wearing thin in 1934. By 1935, things were sliding into open warfare. He repeatedly griped about what he called “poisonous propaganda.” In the president’s mind, any reporter who wasn’t strongly for him was against him. Asking tough questions about his New Deal programs amounted to treason. Roosevelt took those questions as personal attacks and nurtured bitter grudges.
By the time he ran for re-election in 1936, he complained that 85 percent of the press was against him








Barack Obama’s lies and propaganda and attacks on conservative media. Obama made plenty of attacks on the press. “Under his administration, the U.S. government has set a new record for withholdingFreedom of Information Act requests,” which give the press an essential view into the workings of the executive branch. He declared war on leaks even while paying lip service to the protection of whistleblowers. Plus, he held infrequent news conferences, much to the dismay of the media.




Kennedy was friendly to some members of the press, but hostile to others. While his presidency began as a love affair with the press (or rather the press with him), that degenerated over time. This was especially true during the crisis with Cuba in 1961 and 1962. To the dismay of journalists, even friendly ones, Kennedy shut off access to foreign policy information.




Dwight Eisenhower was quite turbulent with the press. He restricted media access and caused many to believe the country was facing a crisis of liberty, and that government secrecy was growing.


Another president who also had his entanglements with the press is, of course, Richard Nixon, who called the press “the elites” and threatened to fire his press secretaryif he didn’t keep media out of the White House. “I want it clearly understood from now on, ever no reporter from the Washington Post is ever to be in the White House. Is that clear?” Nixon said.


the press despised Lyndon B. Johnson. Members of the media accused Johnson of lying and of lacking credibility. Historians say that by 1967, many members of the White House press corps — and of the American media in general — had grown tired of Johnson’s efforts to manipulate and punish them.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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Maybe the fact that the media is critical of Trump for a reason.
And maybe Trump is critical of the msm for a reason. He knows a lot more about what is really going on than you or I do.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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Here's another one. Obama was born in Kanye. Oh wait! That was fake news that Trump help spread.
It should read "Obama was born in Kenya" not "Kanye".
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:27 AM
 
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trump starts his run for the presidency by trashing the media calling them scum and fake news.
as time goes on he does more or less the same with the FBI/CIA NSA/DOJ. Alright then Game on .
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Old 08-10-2018, 10:37 AM
 
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Here's another one. Obama was born in Kanye. Oh wait! That was fake news that Trump help spread.
Here's another one...
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“But as far as the implication that Bernie Sanders is sexist—you wouldn’t go that far?” Clinton shrugged, smiled, and sidestepped the question. “I said what I had to say about it,”
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Clinton cited an article that, in her words, showed “how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in [Indiana and Pennsylvania] who had not completed college were supporting me.” A reporter asked Clinton whether this argument was racially divisive. “These are the people you have to win if you’re a Democrat,” Clinton replied dismissively.
Hillary Clinton keeps smearing Bernie Sanders as a sexist: Now she is reaching for the race card.

Politics is a dirty and dishonest business, only an extreme partisan sees their side as innocent in that stuff.
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Old 08-10-2018, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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More FAKE news from CNN...

CNN Caught Planting an Anti-Trump Socialist Posing as Trump Supporter | Jeremy Montanez


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buMab0eGAjk

President Trump is correct in pointing out these liars for what they are, FAKE NEWS!
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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I'd agree with that, and I would also say that the current President has been attacked, lied about and treated worse than any previous President including Nixon by the media.
Pfft. Trump was going after the last president publicly on Twitter. He laid himself out there for the press. Then on the campaign tour, he said so many idiotic things that the press had to cover him more than the other candidates. Trump brought all this ish on himself. I got no sympathy for him. Really, I have no sympathy for any candidate who thinks they are treated unfairly by the press. It tends to go with the territory. If you run for office and especially if you win, the press has to do their jobs. Some of the press might get things wrong and go overboard. Guess what? They're human just like the candidates. It'll be fine, eventually.
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