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Old 08-15-2018, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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It need not do worse. Tens of thousands of victims, now Pa priests doubling as kiddie porn producers. Having victims wear crosses to signal they are easy prey-that makes them "chicken hawks". It needs to stop. RCC is not interested. It has conspired to hide them, fought laws allowing victims time to report, etc.

I spent over a decade in RCC schools, but their behavior has been systemically evil regarding their massive pedophilia problem.

I watched the full Pa Grand Jury report video.

This latest scandal is making the massive Boston pedophilia RCC scandal seem small.

Time for District Attorneys to take out the trash wearing RCC collars, or bishop robes.

Try em, then lock em up, life w/o parole, in gen pop.
Criteria? Again how about the Boy Scouts? The YMCA? The Baptists?

In general this is a historic record of what happened a while ago. The RCC tried to handle its own bad guys...and that was mostly acceptable to society when it occurred.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:25 PM
 
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Criteria? Again how about the Boy Scouts? The YMCA? The Baptists?

In general this is a historic record of what happened a while ago. The RCC tried to handle its own bad guys...and that was mostly acceptable to society when it occurred.
Baloney. society did not know perps were shuffled around w/o warning the public.

DAs need to solve the problem. Hold them accountable to all the laws of the land.

Period.

Try em and punish em, including any bishop who shuffles them round, latter under RICO. It has been an RCC conspiracy.

Wonderful to see this exposed. Most major papers did a superb job showcasing this vast Pa, pedophile network.

Transparency rocks for the law abiding.

Now we can watch the Pa flock flee just like Massachusetts, just like Bridgeport Ct after its scandal, and hundreds more nationally.

Empty pews in this case are a beautiful thing.

Kill the RCC financially-then it will get interested.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:36 PM
 
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Sell everything the church owns and give the money to the victims.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:41 PM
 
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Sell everything the church owns and give the money to the victims.
I would favor forced auctions to settle sexual abuse suits.

Decades ago, the KKK lost a suit where someone was killed and had to give the deed to its modest hq to the widow.

Same principle should apply.

We need Bankruptcy laws changed to not allow these suits to be voided.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:01 PM
 
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There's nothing so effective as infiltrating an organization with vile predators to discredit it in the public's opinion.
But there's always a consequence for tolerating predators.
It's unmerciful to their next victim.
Ok , so the previous victim caused it then. Great.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:02 PM
 
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No it wouldn't. Priests who aren't depraved and cannot stick to their vows just have affairs. The priesthood attracts the depraved because 1) they're trying to save themselves and think this is the way to do it, OR 2) it's a hall pass for depraved pedophiles. Some of them were sexually abused as children.

I agree priests should be able to marry, but that wouldn't solve this problem.
Emphasis added.

This dynamic manifests itself throughout society. Depraved people try to pass themselves off as moral models, violent people become cops to "keep the peace", depressed people become therapists.

I guess you could call it a savior complex. To all the heroes out there, I would only ask who is going to save you?
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Emphasis added.

This dynamic manifests itself throughout society. Depraved people try to pass themselves off as moral models, violent people become cops to "keep the peace", depressed people become therapists.

I guess you could call it a savior complex. To all the heroes out there, I would only ask who is going to save you?
Troubled people try to cope, or find respectability, by focusing on the troubles of others. That isn't necessarily a bad thing... mixed bag, I suppose.
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Japan
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I think it would help if the young priests were all expected to become regular married guys with their own kids. Of course that wouldn't eliminate the problem, but the RCC priesthood would be much less of a magnet for deviants. Given the magnitude of this scandal, I don't see how the Church can avoid changing its policy on marriage.
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:56 PM
 
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No, maybe it wouldn't make the news (although I do believe it would), but an adult is going to be more credible than a child.

What if the woman has a falling out with the priest and wants revenge? It's likely that priest's career would be over. And that could be something they fear. They might have to live in the world and have to actually work to feed themselves!

I'm not saying that some of these priests are NOT pedophiles; just that they might see abusing children as the safest way to have sex without jeopardizing their jobs.
If thy are not loosing their jobs due to being in relationships with kids, they have little to nothing to fear being caught in a normal relationship with an adult female.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:06 PM
 
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Need to figure out why so many men are becoming pedophiles before we start to address what careers they go into or who they choose to work for, for what ever reasons. 'Something' is making them into a pedophile before they even get into positions with access to kids.

Plus, its not just the church, or priests, parish etc, that are complicit in this. Cannot leave out all the parents, teachers, neighbors, etc who just a couple decades ago, would do nothing more than roll their eyes and laugh/ joke about that 'one guy' who liked to spend time with young girls or boys a bit too much! Many parents, teachers, neighbors, were guilty of this in the neighborhood I grew up in, they all knew about adult guys who were either dating or just sleeping with underage girls, but they roll their eyes, etc, no one ever turned them in, or thought to report it, Im sure most people on here know some people like this during their lives too.

Heck my own parents knew a classmate of mine was sleeping with a neighborhood guy in his mid 20s, when she was around 13/14, this was NOT viewed as a serious thing back in the 80s and 90s though, I still remember many of the neighborhood parents (especially the wives) would joke about this, mostly the guy not being able to get a girl his own age.
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