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Old 08-16-2018, 06:46 PM
 
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Dude it's already happening. These lunatics would turn on Jesus himself if Trump told them to.
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Actually - It wasn't Jesus that the MSNBC crowd on Morning Joe today claimed.
One of the "experts" said that people would kill their own parents in Trump told them to do so.

These Leftist certainly have their Act together.
Kill your parents, America was Never Great ....... VOTE for US!
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:50 PM
 
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Many years ago one of the original members of the ACLU lived down the street from me. He and I had some interesting conversations about them and the law yet in the end, he agreed with me that they strayed from their original mission and went far astray from their intended job of protecting civil liberties and championing the downtrodden.
This saddened him greatly...
Such as?
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Why do you or anyone for that matter care? C'mon, fess up and lets hear the real reason y'all are so upset.

Brennan is no longer a government employee, he is a TV NETWORK employee who doesn't require any such clearance.

Is it just because mean old Trump removed it?
Probably because a president is reacting to criticism, one of the generals involved in the death of Osama asked that he revoke his clearance so he could be in good company. Trump continues to divide the nation and his supporters continue to make up excuses for his actions.

I’m just guessing that a former CIA director might still have some value in exposing terrorism.:roll eyes

Maybe Trump can explain this new found fear of retired employees having clearance, so far out of thousands it’s exactly one. He needs to get after all those other generals they are a threat. Too bad Obama didn’t do the same to Cheney, instead of listening to him for 8 years.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:08 PM
 
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That might be Pay For View TeeVee -- the ACLU defending Brennan hiding Intelligence from Congressional Committees and his Spying on Congressional Committees.

How the Might Have Fallen .....anyone remember when the ACLU was NOT a Partisan Resistance Group against a Republican Party and actually stood up for Civil Rights??

Probably not -- it was a good long time ago.
All Leftist groups start from a position of championing "freedom" as a means of combatting the power structure that they dislike. Its a means of (socio)political deconstruction so that something else can take power.

See the english Civil War. See the French Revolution. See the American Revolution. See the Russian Communist Revolution. All with very similar themes of social and political freedom.

All political ideologies that have this view are inherently rebellious and inherently wish to tear down an existing power structure. No exceptions.

All of the "Freedom" culture in this nation is essentially a 250 year old echo of the prior (apparently very deep and wide) social propaganda that allowed a rebellion to overtake British rule. However, it has also long served as a bludgeon in the long process of deconstructing the prior much needed social values and habits (that long remained after Millenia of developing them) toward ever greater sociopolitical disintegration. Making way for a new order.

What is also common is that when the rebellion has accomplished its work, the leadership of the "freedom fighters" is often not shy in regard to implementing totalitarian rule. After all, the point was only power change. Not juvenile concepts of lasting and continuing freedom. Only mindless soldiers tend to believe in such things, speaking from the probable perspective of those in charge of such large scale political movements.

The United States might be the only nation that was able to develop a true middle ground government and society that lasted for a little while. "Freezing" freedom in place, so that people could access it, for a couple of hundred years. This likely had as much to do with a practical need to keep this culture alive so that it could defend the borders of the excessively large USA over the centuries in which our population was still relatively low and our war technology limited.

The ACLU similarly started championing a very liberal doctrine of freedoms guaranteed under our constitution. As all grassroots revolutionary movements do.

That the ACLU is moving away from that is only a sign that the prior revolutionary period is completing, the old order has been sufficiently deconstructed, and the new order is ready to tighten its grip on power. And thus clamp down on revolutionary freedom. For them, it is simply no longer required nor desired.

Don't be surprised that the former 'champions of freedom' are okay with that. They only wanted power, this was always their primary mission, and this was always the guaranteed outcome. You have been thoroughly fooled.

The only way to have prevented this would have been for the prior generations to gird their emotional pressure points, see the situation with a steely eye, and have not let these revolutionary organizations and the associated culture take hold further than it already had after the civil war. Communism is the eventual alternative outcome to such a measure (which was missed), and it always was.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:15 PM
 
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Why do you or anyone for that matter care? C'mon, fess up and lets hear the real reason y'all are so upset.

Brennan is no longer a government employee, he is a TV NETWORK employee who doesn't require any such clearance.

Is it just because mean old Trump removed it?
I just find it ridiculous that Trump gets his feelings hurt and goes around pulling everybody's clearance. I don't recall that ever having been done by any past administration. Shows what a snowflake the man is.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I just find it ridiculous that Trump gets his feelings hurt and goes around pulling everybody's clearance. I don't recall that ever having been done by any past administration. Shows what a snowflake the man is.

What tRump is really after is to remove the clearances of those in the law enforcement and intel agencies who know about the tRump-Putin conspiracy so that they can't be effective witnesses. It's another tRump act of obstruction in plain sight.

It's America vs tRump.

Bet on America.

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Old 08-16-2018, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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That might be Pay For View TeeVee -- the ACLU defending Brennan hiding Intelligence from Congressional Committees and his Spying on Congressional Committees.

How the Might Have Fallen .....anyone remember when the ACLU was NOT a Partisan Resistance Group against a Republican Party and actually stood up for Civil Rights??

Probably not -- it was a good long time ago.
Yes, I do. Like when they defended the KKK in its bid to demonstrate in Ohio in the 80s. It was a matter of defending all speech, even speech we hate.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:35 PM
 
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What tRump is really after is to remove the clearances of those in the law enforcement and intel agencies who know about the tRump-Putin conspiracy so that they can't be effective witnesses. It's another tRump act of obstruction in plain sight.

It's America vs tRump.

Bet on America.






damn what a dumb post......how do you prevent a witness from testifying by pulling their security clearance when they no longer work at the agency? and Brennan is not a good witness, he has been caught lying many times under oath during his service at the CIA.


brennan is a political hack.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Next up Admiral McRaven, another enemy of the state and a threat to Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...a7a_story.html
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:40 PM
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Location: USA
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Trump stating that he believes Putin over his own Intelligence Services did more to impugn the Office of the President than anything Brennan ever did.
Haha, Brennan, a Communist party supporter who actually went so far as voting for Gus Hall for president, the Communist party candidate criticizing Trump What next? A KKK member as a Democrat US Senator, or a US president freeing his Terrorist Buddies
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