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Old 08-29-2018, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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That neighbor should go eat a bag of ducks. What's next, ratting someone out for using their own front yard to grow a garden rather than some stupid useless lawn?

Idk I'm starting to wonder if the government really has a purpose at all...
Too late...though not sure how the fuzz was tipped off.

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Denise Morrison of Tulsa, Oklahoma is one such victim. In 2012, Tulsa code enforcement officers walked into Morrison’s front yard without her permission and uprooted her edible garden. Morrison, who was unemployed at the time, was using the foods she grew to sustain herself during a difficult period. Code officers, on the other hand, were enforcing a city ordinance that said plants cannot be higher than twelve inches “unless they’re used for human consumption.” Morrison’s garden contained “lemon, stevia, garlic chives, grapes, strawberries, apple mint, spearmint, peppermint,” fruit trees, and other foods that would have been used for her consumption had the code enforcers not cut some down and ripped others right out of the ground.
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Old 08-29-2018, 06:06 PM
 
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We must applaud the restraint in not sending the SWAT goons
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Old 08-29-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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I love these things. My little nephew loves them too.
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Old 08-29-2018, 06:11 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Sigh. Even in my HOA-controlled neighborhood, there are people who grow food in their front yard without any issues. One of my neighbors grows tomatoes among the shrubs and flowers lining her front walkway. I grow strawberries and thorn-less raspberries. And this is a community where leaving your trash cans out past noon on pick-up day will get you a nasty letter from the ACC.
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Old 08-29-2018, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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We have a number of these little free libraries around the city. I can think of two within two blocks of my house, one in a city park, and one in a front yard. I also don't think there would be a problem for people who want to grow food in their front yard. A neighbor lady once grew a cherry tomato vine on the railing of her front steps. We had an impromptu chat session there one time, and she invited us to snack on them. (I realize that's not the same as a full-blown garden, though)


One more reason I'm glad I live in a legacy city, instead of a suburban HOA community.
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Old 08-29-2018, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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We have a number of these little free libraries around the city. I can think of two within two blocks of my house, one in a city park, and one in a front yard. I also don't think there would be a problem for people who want to grow food in their front yard. A neighbor lady once grew a cherry tomato vine on the railing of her front steps. We had an impromptu chat session there one time, and she invited us to snack on them. (I realize that's not the same as a full-blown garden, though)


One more reason I'm glad I live in a legacy city, instead of a suburban HOA community.
This instance happened in Point Pleasant, NJ. No HOA involved.

it was a municipal code issue. The Police are the enforcers, not originators.
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Old 08-29-2018, 08:54 PM
 
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This instance happened in Point Pleasant, NJ. No HOA involved.

it was a municipal code issue. The Police are the enforcers, not originators.
Well, they are morons for enforcing such a stupid law. By enforcing it, they OWN it!
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Old 08-30-2018, 03:46 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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That neighbor should go eat a bag of ducks. What's next, ratting someone out for using their own front yard to grow a garden rather than some stupid useless lawn?

Idk I'm starting to wonder if the government really has a purpose at all...
Ducks....hahahaha, yes..."ducks". And I wholeheartedly agree. I can't stand neighbors like that. There's always one in every neighborhood who can't mind their own damn business.
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Old 08-30-2018, 03:55 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Big Daddy Government doesn't take kindly to serfs doing such things of their own accord.
Exactly people. Our freedoms are being taken away from us, one by one.
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Old 08-30-2018, 04:28 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Snitch society example #872376438:



Example #6967958605 of how you never actually own your property:



The town of course did a big CYA after major outcry:



https://patch.com/new-jersey/brick/s...campaign=alert
I don't get this bit...

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such libraries are not allowed because they're not mentioned in the land-use ordinance.
What I don't get is whether the ordinance is proscriptive or prescriptive. Most law in the US says "you can't do X" so if the law doesn't say X you're free to do it. However fir the quote to be true the law has to be prescriptive "you can only do X" if X isn't there you can't do it.

Are they really saying that? Because that could be really stupid, can't have a barbecue because the ordinance doesn't say you can, can't even dig a weed because the ordinance doesn't say you can. If that's their claim I'd like to see the specific ordinance that says such.
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