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Well, I think it's safe to say that the OP was right. The trend in regards to gay marriage, as it was in regards to civil rights for blacks and women, seems to be of PROGRESS.
I know it's really hard for the bigots to understand, but you will LOSE this battle, just as racists lost the battle for equal rights for blacks. It will happen, and it will happen soon.
Bigots?
People, no matter their skin color are equal in every way, in ever endeavor, which is much different then equating the societal benefit of the marriage of two men to the marriage of a man and a woman.
Marriage is all about children and the future they represent, there is no other reason for government to be involved with marriage that. It is silly to call two men a married couple because they "might" adopt, or "might" nor adopt a baby.
Most of the gay couples I know who actually want to get legally married(mostly women) have children and are already in long term stable relationships.
Call me a sexist, but i think women are different in that regard. I don't see a lot of young gay men in San Fran running out to adopt a baby so they and their partner can raise it. We have enough straight men who "hit it and quit it" as it is.
I see no benefit to society if gay men marry or not, if they adopt a child then it is a different matter, and they should have access to all the aid and tax breaks we give to married couples. But to simply classify all gay couples as "married" just because they "might" adopt is silly.
Call me a sexist, but i think women are different in that regard. I don't see a lot of young gay men in San Fran running out to adopt a baby so they and their partner can raise it. We have enough straight men who "hit it and quit it" as it is.
I see no benefit to society if gay men marry or not, if they adopt a child then it is a different matter, and they should have access to all the aid and tax breaks we give to married couples. But to simply classify all gay couples as "married" just because they "might" adopt is silly.
I don't think they should be permitted to adopt actually. That may sound harsh....and I am honestly supportive of gay rights in EVERY area except marriage and adoption....but I pretty much believe in the nuclear family. I think the government should do everything possible to promote it.
Two fathers or two mothers simply cannot, under any circumstances, replicate a mother and a father.
That said, I believe it is a STATE issue...not a federal issue. I wouldn't advocate amendments to the U.S. Constitution or any federal laws being passed re: gay marriage. It needs to be handled state by state.
I don't think they should be permitted to adopt actually. That may sound harsh....and I am honestly supportive of gay rights in EVERY area except marriage and adoption....but I pretty much believe in the nuclear family. I think the government should do everything possible to promote it.
Two fathers or two mothers simply cannot, under any circumstances, replicate a mother and a father.
That said, I believe it is a STATE issue...not a federal issue. I wouldn't advocate amendments to the U.S. Constitution or any federal laws being passed re: gay marriage. It needs to be handled state by state.
So you would ban a single woman from being artificially inseminated, and giving birth? Lesbians can have babies, even if it has to be a planned and purposeful act.
So you would ban a single woman from being artificially inseminated, and giving birth? Lesbians can have babies, even if it has to be a planned and purposeful act.
Not sure if I would ban that or not. I don't feel like it's an ideal situation, but I don't know if we should legislate to that extent.
there is no such thing as a "nuclear family" anymore. today we have all sorts of families. gay, straight, mixed race, adopted, single moms, single dads, grandparents, aunts and uncles as legal guardians.
The 2 1/2 kids and white picket fence days are long gone my friend. no need to have the government to influence that either.
there is no such thing as a "nuclear family" anymore. today we have all sorts of families. gay, straight, mixed race, adopted, single moms, single dads, grandparents, aunts and uncles as legal guardians.
The 2 1/2 kids and white picket fence days are long gone my friend.
And that is the problem. I'm not advocating literally returning to the exact same ways of those days, but we shouldn't change the basic structure. It worked.
there is no such thing as a "nuclear family" anymore. today we have all sorts of families. gay, straight, mixed race, adopted, single moms, single dads, grandparents, aunts and uncles as legal guardians.
The 2 1/2 kids and white picket fence days are long gone my friend. no need to have the government to influence that either.
You can ignore the increase in crimes of every type---school shootings, child abuse, children killing parents and vice versa. These are some of the examples of a decaying culture. You can spin this in any way to fit your warped way of thinking, but when the family unit is destroyed, everything else falls apart. Besides, in all honesty, this is exactly what this country deserves, because we are more concerned with our 401K's and a corporate job that ultimately destroys you. The market drop didn't make me sad. Instead, it made me scream "I TOLD YOU SO".
And that is the problem. I'm not advocating literally returning to the exact same ways of those days, but we shouldn't change the basic structure. It worked.
Exactly, as if, in 2009 we are enlightened enough that we no longer see the benefit to society or our country to have stable families raising the next generation of Americans.
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