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Old 09-25-2018, 11:05 PM
 
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So, let me ask you this. If I sat down next to you and started fondling you and when you told me to stop I could dismiss the incident it by saying "sorry, I thought you might like it"?
I'd need to see a picture of you before I decide how to respond.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:44 PM
 
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It might be a violation of school policy but it's not clear at all that the girl sees it as a violation to her.

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"metoo has been good in a lot of respects, but it's a big mistake to lump everything even remotely sexual with serious, life-altering attacks."
She complained to the administration, so it wasn't welcome and this part of the post is why I responded as I did, that just because it wasn't "serious, life altering" it still matters enough to let people know not to do it.

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Old 09-26-2018, 12:00 AM
 
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She complained to the administration, so it wasn't welcome.

"metoo has been good in a lot of respects, but it's a big mistake to lump everything even remotely sexual with serious, life-altering attacks."

This part of the post is why I responded as I did, that just because it wasn't "serious, life altering" it still matters enough to let people know not to do it.
Everyone knows to not do something unwelcome, but when a minor same action could be welcome or unwelcome and isn't always clear, some want to make it out to be a "serious, life altering" event.


I don't believe all the sexual harassment hysteria that women are so fragile. I think something else is afoot.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:22 AM
 
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Everyone knows to not do something unwelcome, but when a minor same action could be welcome or unwelcome and isn't always clear, some want to make it out to be a "serious, life altering" event.


I don't believe all the sexual harassment hysteria that women are so fragile. I think something else is afoot.
Clearly that's not the case or it wouldn't have happened to that daughter, nor would all the other cases of harassment. I was grabbed by the butt or breast pretty often in middle school. Was it life altering,or tragic? No, but would I have prefferred it not happen? Yes. That was my point with the initial post. Girls don't want to be gabbed or groped by anyone they aren't dating. Hitting on a girl is usually a kiss or touch on an arm, maybe a thigh and that's fine but not a crotch or boob. If a girl has not kissed someone they should not grab her anywhere sexual.

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