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Short term: international accords, garden farming, ending industrial farms, use renewable energy and recycle goods, end water pollution, etc.
Long term: destroy for profit private power and there monopoly on capital which is used to destroy the environment and make business worker owned (not for profit).
I have news for you, many of the electrical power companies in the US are non profit coops.
Interesting isn't it, how Hawaii, California any many states that are heavily controlled by the progressive Democrats, and yet they stand out as not really having much in the way of nont for profit electric power coops.
Reducing the necessary energy output would require less fossil fuels.
Most of our energy demands are done in excess thanks to private capital.
Balderdash.
Energy costs money, so private capital already utilizes energy pretty efficiently. Unfortunately, by that same principle, private capital will always use the cheapest source of energy, regardless of the negative externalities. Right now, coal and natural gas are the cheapest way of generating electricity, so that is what is used.
Brace yourself. You are about to be deluged with climate deniers. Low information people who wouldn't be able to tell you what a molecule is are going to chime in with their "expertise" as to why the whole scientific community around the world is wrong and they are right.
I doubt many of the climate deniers even have a high school education, but trust them, because they know all about this.
By the time we get these cretins out of office there won't be anything left to save.
LOL......the sheep who buy the Kool-Aid from the UN.......and the bogus "scientists" who depend on research grants bleeding us all dry after even the "low information" people know they have cooked the books. NOBODY has a handle on global events. Warming and cooling has been happening for thousands of years, the guys who can read the glacial tea leaves tell us that. There were no SUV's in Santa Monica thousands of years ago......yet we had warming and cooling. It's a clever scam nothing more.......and we appear to be entering a cooling phase because solar activity has gone into a quiet period.
Short term: international accords, garden farming, ending industrial farms, use renewable energy and recycle goods, end water pollution, etc.
Long term: destroy for profit private power and there monopoly on capital which is used to destroy the environment and make business worker owned (not for profit).
OK, I'll give you credit for at least answering. Let's go by point:
International accord - so far, even the ballyhoo'd accords like Kyoto and Paris have had dismal compliance levels, and virtually nobody actually hits their claimed targets. Can you give me an example of an international accord that would force compliance for the world's top 10 polluters other than the US?
Garden farming/end industrial farming - so we reset the economic progress timeline back to subsistence farming, and produce no excess? Essentially, roll the economic development clock back to ~1850?
Renewable energy - by this do you mean no stored energy, as in no fossil fuel and no nuclear?
Recycle goods - a generally useful thing, no argument, no question.
End water pollution - a generally useful thing, no argument, no question.
Destroy capitalism - again, resetting the societal progress clock back a couple centuries to, but my question here would be the estimate of the number of humans that will, for certain, die, when the world goes to subsistence farming and production in theory, in a reality where at least half the world is incapable of survival according to their individual efforts. Serious question, not being sarcastic here, but is culling the human race by about half an intended or unintended outcome? I ask because culling the human race by about 4 billion or so would indeed significantly reduce CO2 levels from just respiration alone, but certainly once you count their daily activities.
My mechanical engineering thermodynamics textbook says that CO2 and methane absorb strongly in the infrared. Are the authors of this textbook part of the leftist conspiracy?
It's one thing to understand that CO2 and methane are greenhouse gases, it's another thing to think that there are no feedbacks to counter them, or that for every 1 ppm they will increase the mean average climate temperature by five degrees F, or whatever the current man-made global climate change prognosticators are claiming.
It’s not yet known whether clouds (liquid water droplets) have a net warming or cooling effect. It’s one of the major uncertainties that makes the amount of warming hard to predict.
It IS known that water vapor has a strong net warming effect. Water vapor itself is a strong *positive* feedback.
We do know that "clouds reflect sunlight and reduce the amount of energy that reaches the Earth’s surface"
LOL......the sheep who buy the Kool-Aid from the UN.......and the bogus "scientists" who depend on research grants bleeding us all dry after even the "low information" people know they have cooked the books. NOBODY has a handle on global events. Warming and cooling has been happening for thousands of years, the guys who can read the glacial tea leaves tell us that. There were no SUV's in Santa Monica thousands of years ago......yet we had warming and cooling. It's a clever scam nothing more.......and we appear to be entering a cooling phase because solar activity has gone into a quiet period.
Are the authors of my mechanical engineering thermodynamics textbook part of this scam?
Fact, leaving capital control in the hands of private power have left our global well being on the precipice of destruction.
The natural world, fresh water, all formulated by organic beings in the pursuit of mutual aid form the circle of life. Bees pollinate plants while in turn plants offer food and vegetation to the living world. Algae is consumed by fish who offer natural and voluntary regulation for natural living.
Read Mutual Aid:A Factor of Evolution by Peter Kropotkin to understand that from any colonies, to bee hives, to white tail birds, to plant life, to wolf packs, to human settlements, communal help is what has brought us to success, not artificial power and economic control.
Today capitalism is forcing authoritarian dictations on private power who act on their own needs, wasting the land for their own profit and leading to climate destruction.
We must save this world and finally free ourselves to form a self sustaining society we’re nature and man live in harmony, not by the invisible control of business wealth.
There is no denying what is happening, we must act now.
I think , in the past, you and I have disagreed on some subjects. On this one, I totally agree with you. Every EXPERT in this area agrees, and what we are seeing more and more confirms it.
The deniers will be standing in knee deep water from rising sea levels, and they will be saying this is not a problem. We need leadership who realizes this is a real issue and who are willing to start acting now.
Otherwise, we will all be going to the seashore, in Arizona.
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