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My SIL was pregnant at 19 and married the father of her child back in the late 60's. After 4 children, including twins, all 2 years apart, he walked out on her. Her oldest was 6 years old. She only had a HS diploma. YOU tell me how she was suppose to get a job, DAY CARE, and support these kids with no job skills? WHITE WOMAN, btw.
She did go on welfare, BUT NYC tracked down her deadbeat husband, who had a good job with the LIRR, and made him pay child support for his in wedlock children. Ok, MEN, do you disagree with this?
While her husband continued to support his children, SIL got a job once her kids were all in school, and she did not have to pay for day care.
She eventually divorced her husband, married another man, who adopted her then teenage children. Worked out well for all concerned.
Actually if there is any welfare involved it goes to my old employer. I would have had lifetime medical insurance paid by my long term employer if it was not for Medicare. And it costs me plenty...I never paid a single dime for medical my entire life until I went on Medicare. Now it costs me a grand a month. So basically I now pay a $1000 a month and paid FICA on 8 million worth of income for what would have been free as part of my employment. You really making welfare out of that?
And the dumbest part is that i would have negotiated it into my employment contract if I had realized it existed.
You are rich, and yet you still complain? You are healthy, and yet you still complain?
Some Libertarians just cannot appreciate how good they have it!
Folks who try to set up "unworthy" subgroups citing costs as their main concern are on a slippery slope to nowhere.
The larger and infinitively more important issue is overall national debt. Addressing THAT involves much more than conceptually opposing "welfare" (however, it is defined). Addressing abuse in welfare programs as for any other expenditure is always appropriate.
The only clean line really is anarchism. Otherwise, it's simply a matter of degree.
Then there are other minefields if the question becomes who contributes most to a society (say with a family member who is killed in the military) and how that loss should be weighed against that family's use of benefits compared to taxes paid.
What is it about our national debt that bothers you?
Why not? If the issue is receiving a benefit that you've not paid for, then why not separate those out who receive more Medicare benefits than their contribution plus gains ... or Social Security (including spousal or child benefits and disability). Once you pass your "pay-in" dollar figure, then aged, disabled or not, it's off to some mandated work program or you cannot vote or whatever the sanction-of-the-day is.
I dont know, even with regular health insurance, there are going to be people who use more than they pay in.
If you consider them to be welfare recipients, I guess you could make that case for Medicare recipients.
First of all, this is not true. There are countries in the civilized world where doctors get paid as much or more than the USA, on average.
Second, it’s not like we all dont know from a very young age which professions get paid a lot and which dont. It’s not like I was forced to be a doctor, and there was nothing “random†about it. I like helping people. I truly do. But I also like living a certain lifestyle, and I’m thrilled that we live in a country that allows me to have the best of both worlds. If doctors got paid as much as mechanics, I likely would have spent all that time and energy I spent into becoming a doctor on something else that was more lucrative.
You save lives, and give people a better quality of life every day. If it were up to me, Doctors would get paid like NFL players. If it weren't for great Doctors, I wouldn't be doing nearly as well as I am.
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Third, I will pat myself on the back. I am willing to bet that I give a lot more money than you do, to some really amazing causes. That is money that I could be using on anything I want, but I choose to give it away for more noble purposes. So you will have a very difficult time if you are trying to make me feel any differently about it.
You should. There's no way I could shoulder the responsibility of having someone's life literally in my hands every day the way you do. I'm glad your shoulders are broad enough to carry that burden. Thank you.
What is it about our national debt that bothers you?
Deadbeats creates a good portion of it.
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