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Old 12-22-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The 8 House Republicans who voted against the border wall.

Carlos Carbelo (Florida) - Lost his re-election bid in November. Went on MSNBC to b**ch about Trump for his parting shot because no 2 million dreamer legislation voted on.
Will Hurd (Texas) - Won reelection in November by less than 1 point.
Erik Paulsen (Minnesota) - Lost re-election in November by double digits.
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Florida) - Had announced she was retiring.
David Valadao (California) - Lost re-election by less than 1 point in November.
Ken Buck (Colorado) - Claims he wanted the wall, just didn't want it tied to government shutdown.
Justin Amash (Michigan) - Claims it's massive, wasteful spending bill—stuffed with unrelated items and that the Democrats will try to attach Medicare For All to it.
Fred Upton (Michigan) - Another who wanted border security tied to the 2 million dreamers and claims the wall may not be appropriate in all areas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...ps-border-wall

Note: Not using "claims" in a derogatory way. Just don't know if it's true. Looks like we Republicans only have to remember 3 of them when they come up for re-election next time.
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Old 12-22-2018, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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If what Justin Amash says is true, I can't blame him for saying 'no'. I don't want Medicare for All, and I agree with him that it's not acceptable to have the Dems try to attach that into the bill.

The rest of those RINOs, good riddance to the ones who lost, and the ones who won, (even if barely) can go pound sand with their lame excuses.
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Old 12-22-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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The 8 House Republicans who voted against the border wall.

Carlos Carbelo (Florida) - Lost his re-election bid in November. Went on MSNBC to b**ch about Trump for his parting shot because no 2 million dreamer legislation voted on.
Will Hurd (Texas) - Won reelection in November by less than 1 point.
Erik Paulsen (Minnesota) - Lost re-election in November by double digits.
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Florida) - Had announced she was retiring.
David Valadao (California) - Lost re-election by less than 1 point in November.
Ken Buck (Colorado) - Claims he wanted the wall, just didn't want it tied to government shutdown.
Justin Amash (Michigan) - Claims it's massive, wasteful spending bill—stuffed with unrelated items and that the Democrats will try to attach Medicare For All to it.
Fred Upton (Michigan) - Another who wanted border security tied to the 2 million dreamers and claims the wall may not be appropriate in all areas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...ps-border-wall

Note: Not using "claims" in a derogatory way. Just don't know if it's true. Looks like we Republicans only have to remember 3 of them when they come up for re-election next time.
The GOP needs to start running people as democrats who once elected vote like the GOP.

It would stop the block voting of democrats and even the playing field. It might make the elected more independent of party too.
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Old 12-22-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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We cannot ignore the dreamers forever to punish their parents. Give them green cards. No benefits except the Social Security they pay for.

Somebody needs to come up with a compromise to end this pissing contest stalemate.

Let the person who has not benefitted from or used illegals be the first.

Most of the houses built in Texas form the early 70s on used illegal labor. The chicken and fish we buy at the supermarket was dressed by illegals. The stores we shop in, the offices we work in and visit have been cleaned by illegals, I know for a fact since the 60s.

Get real, people.
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Old 12-22-2018, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
The 8 House Republicans who voted against the border wall.

Carlos Carbelo (Florida) - Lost his re-election bid in November. Went on MSNBC to b**ch about Trump for his parting shot because no 2 million dreamer legislation voted on.
Will Hurd (Texas) - Won reelection in November by less than 1 point.
Erik Paulsen (Minnesota) - Lost re-election in November by double digits.
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Florida) - Had announced she was retiring.
David Valadao (California) - Lost re-election by less than 1 point in November.
Ken Buck (Colorado) - Claims he wanted the wall, just didn't want it tied to government shutdown.
Justin Amash (Michigan) - Claims it's massive, wasteful spending bill—stuffed with unrelated items and that the Democrats will try to attach Medicare For All to it.
Fred Upton (Michigan) - Another who wanted border security tied to the 2 million dreamers and claims the wall may not be appropriate in all areas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...ps-border-wall

Note: Not using "claims" in a derogatory way. Just don't know if it's true. Looks like we Republicans only have to remember 3 of them when they come up for re-election next time.
Good for Buck!
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Old 12-22-2018, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Amash votes against pretty much all spending bills so that one isn't much of a surprise. Curbelo, Hurd, Paulsen, Ros Lehitnen, and Valado all represent districts Trump lost and only Hurd's Trump was relatively close in (3.4)
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Old 12-22-2018, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Austin
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We cannot ignore the dreamers forever to punish their parents. Give them green cards. No benefits except the Social Security they pay for.

Somebody needs to come up with a compromise to end this pissing contest stalemate.

Let the person who has not benefitted from or used illegals be the first.

Most of the houses built in Texas form the early 70s on used illegal labor. The chicken and fish we buy at the supermarket was dressed by illegals. The stores we shop in, the offices we work in and visit have been cleaned by illegals, I know for a fact since the 60s.

Get real, people.
"dreamers" are illegal immigrants. Why should they be allowed to jump the line when others have waited for years to come here legally, including children of legal immigrants?
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Old 12-22-2018, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Spring Hope, NC
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Originally Posted by crone View Post
We cannot ignore the dreamers forever to punish their parents. Give them green cards. No benefits except the Social Security they pay for.

Somebody needs to come up with a compromise to end this pissing contest stalemate.

Let the person who has not benefitted from or used illegals be the first.

Most of the houses built in Texas form the early 70s on used illegal labor. The chicken and fish we buy at the supermarket was dressed by illegals. The stores we shop in, the offices we work in and visit have been cleaned by illegals, I know for a fact since the 60s.

Get real, people.

Isn't it time we cleaned up the shop,
Pin them down then send them home.

Employers should be held accountable as well.
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Old 12-22-2018, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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The 8 House Republicans who voted against the border wall.

Carlos Carbelo (Florida) - Lost his re-election bid in November. Went on MSNBC to b**ch about Trump for his parting shot because no 2 million dreamer legislation voted on.
Will Hurd (Texas) - Won reelection in November by less than 1 point.
Erik Paulsen (Minnesota) - Lost re-election in November by double digits.
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Florida) - Had announced she was retiring.
David Valadao (California) - Lost re-election by less than 1 point in November.
Ken Buck (Colorado) - Claims he wanted the wall, just didn't want it tied to government shutdown.
Justin Amash (Michigan) - Claims it's massive, wasteful spending bill—stuffed with unrelated items and that the Democrats will try to attach Medicare For All to it.
Fred Upton (Michigan) - Another who wanted border security tied to the 2 million dreamers and claims the wall may not be appropriate in all areas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...ps-border-wall

Note: Not using "claims" in a derogatory way. Just don't know if it's true. Looks like we Republicans only have to remember 3 of them when they come up for re-election next time.

So, you want to remember them for having the courage to vote their conscience, and to do what they were paid to do, and why they went to DC in the first place ? Or, are you going to be vindictive, and put aside all the good work they have done over one point you happen to disagree on ?


I don't think you will have the chance...…….most likely, a Democrat will be replacing them anyway.
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Old 12-22-2018, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Glad to see there are some normal republicans, the question is who were the ones that changed theor minds when Trump pressured them.
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