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Old 01-13-2019, 10:15 PM
 
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What about the secret service/white house staff, allowing mistresses/prostitutes into the whitehouse over the years?
Are they under the jurisdiction of the UCMJ?
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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What about the secret service/white house staff, allowing mistresses/prostitutes into the whitehouse over the years?
Trump has been seeing prostitutes in the White House?
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Was he on duty?
He had fully engaged and was ready to launch his torpedo.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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What about the secret service/white house staff, allowing mistresses/prostitutes into the whitehouse over the years?
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Are they under the jurisdiction of the UCMJ?
Mistresses would be against the law anywhere for a soldier and adultery is illegal in the District of Columbia. But I don't know if the White House falls under their jurisdiction. Though there was that novel and Wesley Snipes movie where a local homicide detective co works the case of murder in the White House.
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Trump has been seeing prostitutes in the White House?
We know for sure President Clinton did see a mistress but it was a misdemeanor and there is no proof that the Secret Service knew of the intern's other duties. It is highly suspected that JFK did but no case ever went to court to be proven.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:29 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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What has this to do with politics?
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:30 AM
 
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Probably the vast majority of US navy sailors are having sex with prostitutes in places like the Philippines. This sounds like some people had an axe to grind so to speak and dug this up on him.
Bingo. That’s all this is.

To bust him down in rank and ruin his career for doing what sailors in the Philippines have been doing since 1898 is laughable.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Bingo. That’s all this is.

To bust him down in rank and ruin his career for doing what sailors in the Philippines have been doing since 1898 is laughable.
I guess the US military still holds to the quasi nobility standard for its officers and "other ranks" as the British used to use the term. That some sailor dropped a dime on his Captain is a symptom of a command problem. And/or he was so public with his affairs that his command could not ignore the complaint calls his judgement into play. Is he really a man to stay in line to command a doomsday missile firing submarine or command a squadron? As a Commander he probably has the time in to retire from the Navy with a pension paying him more than the average American's gross income.
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Boys will be boys, he shouldn't have faced any discipline.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...47502252640292
Thank goodness you're not involved in the personnel reliability program for those handling nuclear weapons.

"Boys will be boys" is for boys, not a nuke boat commander.


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Old 01-14-2019, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Thank goodness you're not involved in the personnel reliability program for those handling nuclear weapons.

"Boys will be boys" is for boys, not a nuke boat commander.


The PRP evaluates many aspects of the individual's work life and home life. Any disruption of these, or severe deviation from an established norm would be cause to deny access. The denial might be temporary or permanent. However, the policy does explicitly state,
The denial of eligibility or the revocation of certification for assignment to PRP positions is neither a punitive measure nor the basis for disciplinary action. The failure of an individual to be certified for assignment to PRP duties does not necessarily reflect unfavorably on the individual's suitability for assignment to other duties.
In certain instances officers and enlisted personnel certified under PRP have been punitively punished for information that also disqualifies them from the program. The suspension from, or indeed the permanent removal of an individual from the program in it itself does not represent a punitive measure.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person...bility_Program


The USS Bremerton wasn't a "nuke boat" it was an attack sub. No nukes on board, not even tac nukes since they retired the W80 TLAM warhead.

Nuclear sub != Boomer.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Well. He was an officer, commander and in a senior leadership position. And he got caught. Held to a higher standard than the enlisted masses. Did a lot of time as a Marine years ago in Southeast Asia. Olongapo, Angeles City and other places. The stories I could tell.
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